On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Jim Campbell <email address hidden> wrote:
> Also, with this particular bug report (which came from a translator), the
> person indicated that they had already made the correction in their
> translated string. Of course, not all translators may have made such an
> adjustment.
But that doesn't matter, because the fact that the English string has
changed will mean that this string will make all translations of this
string appear in English, regardless of whether the previous string
was translated or not.
That's why we have a string freeze...
> In short, though, I wouldn't have pushed this up to Jaunty without the
> initial prompting, and without feeling that not fixing the bug could lead to
> a fair amount of confusion for users.
I understand, but after the string freeze, a system needs to take
place to permit translators to supply translations of the amended
string. There may always be serious bugs that require fixing, but
there isn't time for the fix to be translated, and therefore the fix
should only be done as part of a StableReleaseUpdate after the
release, giving time for translation as part of that process.
This is all irrelevant if xubuntu-docs will not ship with
translations, of course.
> Next time I'll bring something like this up on the mailing list before
> pushing it through, at such a point in time though. If you or anyone else
> feels that the change should be reverted at this point (or at least not
> pushed out with the shipped release), let me know.
If translations are intended to be released with xubuntu-docs, the
proper process should be followed and the change should be reverted.
If not, and the release managers for Xubuntu are happy to let in a
string change 3 days before the release, then I'm certainly not going
to stand in the way of that.
However in the future I'd really like to see xubuntu-docs following
the same procedures as ubuntu-docs and kubuntu-docs, even though the
package is not in the main repository. We may need to work on
documentation for the procedure.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Jim Campbell <email address hidden> wrote:
> Also, with this particular bug report (which came from a translator), the
> person indicated that they had already made the correction in their
> translated string. Of course, not all translators may have made such an
> adjustment.
But that doesn't matter, because the fact that the English string has
changed will mean that this string will make all translations of this
string appear in English, regardless of whether the previous string
was translated or not.
That's why we have a string freeze...
> In short, though, I wouldn't have pushed this up to Jaunty without the
> initial prompting, and without feeling that not fixing the bug could lead to
> a fair amount of confusion for users.
I understand, but after the string freeze, a system needs to take
place to permit translators to supply translations of the amended
string. There may always be serious bugs that require fixing, but
there isn't time for the fix to be translated, and therefore the fix
should only be done as part of a StableReleaseUpdate after the
release, giving time for translation as part of that process.
This is all irrelevant if xubuntu-docs will not ship with
translations, of course.
> Next time I'll bring something like this up on the mailing list before
> pushing it through, at such a point in time though. If you or anyone else
> feels that the change should be reverted at this point (or at least not
> pushed out with the shipped release), let me know.
If translations are intended to be released with xubuntu-docs, the
proper process should be followed and the change should be reverted.
If not, and the release managers for Xubuntu are happy to let in a
string change 3 days before the release, then I'm certainly not going
to stand in the way of that.
However in the future I'd really like to see xubuntu-docs following
the same procedures as ubuntu-docs and kubuntu-docs, even though the
package is not in the main repository. We may need to work on
documentation for the procedure.
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Matthew East
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