[ambiance radiance] iconsistent use of light / shadows in scrollbar

Bug #542686 reported by Christian Göbel
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Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
light-themes (Ubuntu)
Fix Released
Wishlist
James Schriver

Bug Description

Binary package hint: light-themes

Using Lucid beta-1 with the light-themes I have the following issues:

The use of light (gradients + shadows) is inconsistent in the theme. Generally the light seems to come from above - but certain elements indicate the light comes only from the left side or that light is reflected.

While this seems to be a minor issue at first sight it is a major design flaw. To illustrate this just put two icons/graphical elements together, where for one object the light seems to come from above and for the other object the light seems to come from the bottom. Everybody will immediately see that the lighting of the elements do not fit together.
To conclude: for a consistent appearance the consistent use of light/shadows is absolutely crucial.

The problem is best illustrated with the attached screen-shot.
Almost all elements are designed with light from above (virtual light source above the screen). This can be seen at all places that are indicated by 1 in the screenshot. (The Window boarders, icons and so on). These elements generally have a gradient that is lighter on the top and darker on their bottom which gives the illusion of a 3-dimensional round shape with a light-source above the desktop. Same for the Icons - they often have the light from above, and consequently the shadow just below the icon.

Now we have at least two elements with a inconsistent source of light (use of shadow and gradients). These elements therefore do not fit naturally to the rest of the desktop. (Wrong shadows / light are often not perceived conscientiously by most of the people - however many people can say that something seems to be wrong with it)

At the place marked by "2" in the screen-shot (the scrollbar): Here the light seems NOT to shine from above but exclusively from the left of the desktop. Actually since the gradient is very strong it gives the impression of a very deep half-tube in which the slider is embedded. However if it would be a deep half-tube we should actually see shadows from above at the top of this half-tube (where the tube ends). In addition with a light source from above there shouldn't be any shadows (gradients) at the left of the half-tube, in the lower part of the half tube (= in the background of the scroll-bar).
I think this is the main reason why the scroll bar seems not to fit in the whole picture.

One solution would be to give the scrollbar a flat design. (Only a apply a very smooth gradient and make the total colour a bit darker to maintain the contrast).

Another example:
At the place marked by "3" in the screen-shot (the close button):
Here the light seems to come from above on a round button (The fact that the button has the shape of a half dome is a different issue). However if we take a detailed look a the lighting we perceive something odd: There seems to be a different source of (weak) light from bellow. As a result we have a second source of light at the place where there should be a shadow.
Of course this could be some source of reflection. (Light reflected by elements bellow) However the use of reflected light is completely inconsistent with the rest of the design.

One solution would be to apply a flat bottom design - as in the rest of the desktop (compare with the buttons in the panel or the min/max buttoms). At the minimum one should apply the same light - shadow design for all elements on the desktop.

Please let me know if you need further explications.

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Christian Göbel (christiangoebel) wrote :
Vish (vish)
Changed in light-themes (Ubuntu):
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
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Christian Göbel (christiangoebel) wrote :

@Vish: Recently I am really puzzled by the extensive use of "Importance: Wishlist" in the light-themes.

According to the Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance the following rule applies:
"Wishlist: a request to add a new feature to one of the programs in Ubuntu."
Most of the issues reported against the package "light-themes" and that are marked as "Wishlist" are actually not new features but real issues with respect to the design of the theme.

I think the importance of most of these bugs should set to "low" instead - if you think that the issues exists but is only of low importance.
Just to be sure: This is not one of the "my bug is the most important in the world" remarks but really refers to an wrong (according to the wiki.ubuntu rules) use of "Importance: Wishlist".

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Jan Nekvasil (jan-nekvasil) wrote :

After recent updates the same issue applies to progressbar background. The question remains the same: Where is the source of light supposed to be? Above? Far left? Or diagonal, left above? The red close button's new appearance suggest that. If so, the scrollbars and progressbars are just wrong (and the importance level of this bug should not be "Wishlist" at all).

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David Prieto (frandavid100-gmail) wrote :

I fully agree with Christian and Jan. Please, flaten the scrollbars to alleviate this problem.

James Schriver (dashua)
Changed in light-themes (Ubuntu):
assignee: nobody → James Schriver (dashua)
status: New → Fix Committed
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Vish (vish) wrote :

@Christian Göbel:
I'm aware of the importances. Bug importances in packages may vary. If importances were to be only assigned according to the wiki , all the theme bugs will only be "Low" too. But that is not how we assign importances.

For these bugs, You may disagree with the design , but they had been done intentionally. Hence such bugs are "wishlists".
Wishlist here means, bugs which request changing the default intended design.

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Launchpad Janitor (janitor) wrote :

This bug was fixed in the package light-themes - 0.1.6.4

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light-themes (0.1.6.4) lucid; urgency=low

  * Changing link color to fix LP: #549760
  [James Schriver]
  * Ambiance: Adjust sublety of metacity icons prelight
   - Colorize close icon prelight for added glow and pronounced prelight
  * Ambiance/Radiance: Adjust scrollbar lighting (LP: #542686).
   - Remove progressbar lightbordershade (LP: #551107).
   - Global trough_shades for scrollbar/progressbar
 -- Kenneth Wimer <email address hidden> Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:45:29 +0100

Changed in light-themes (Ubuntu):
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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