On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:01 AM, wdesmet <email address hidden> wrote:
> This only affects the workplace switcher applet, which I thought windows
> didn't have?
Indeed that appears to have been Allen's point - that workspace
switching is something "new" that you don't see in Windows. Thus, new
users try it out and like it and use it and play with all the
features. Then they later switch on compiz and it starts working
differently and with fewer features. Yuck.
> You can still move windows between desktops using the
> option menu or the keyboard shortcut (ctr-alt-shift left/right).
(aside: the right-button menu on a windowframe shows _what_ as the
keyboard accelerators for moving the window to workspace
left/right/up/down? ...certainly not ctrl-alt-shift-arrowkey as you
say above, though those DO seem to work just fine, although NOT solve
the problem; see below
> Or just dragging them to the edge of the screen.
Both the arrow-keys solution and the window-dragging solution need the
mouse to be in the window to be moved. The
window-moving-in-the-applet functionality allows _any_ window to be
moved to _any_ workspace, regardless of what windows are showing and
what the current workspace is. So please don't confuse window control
and virtual-workspace-window-management; they're very very different.
> Not that I don't think it's important to fix something like this (a
> thousand paper cuts and all that), but there's no need for the
> hyperbole.
The word hyperbole infers that Allen exaggerated something; I don't
find that to be the case. Nothing he said was an exaggeration, even
his wrap-up that this is a reputational damage issue. It is.
Kind regards,
-Paul Reiber, the guy who opened this bug in the first place and won't
let it die till its fixed
Email: <email address hidden>
Web: http://bit.ly/reiber
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:01 AM, wdesmet <email address hidden> wrote:
> This only affects the workplace switcher applet, which I thought windows
> didn't have?
Indeed that appears to have been Allen's point - that workspace
switching is something "new" that you don't see in Windows. Thus, new
users try it out and like it and use it and play with all the
features. Then they later switch on compiz and it starts working
differently and with fewer features. Yuck.
> You can still move windows between desktops using the
> option menu or the keyboard shortcut (ctr-alt-shift left/right).
(aside: the right-button menu on a windowframe shows _what_ as the shift-arrowkey as you
keyboard accelerators for moving the window to workspace
left/right/up/down? ...certainly not ctrl-alt-
say above, though those DO seem to work just fine, although NOT solve
the problem; see below
> Or just dragging them to the edge of the screen.
Both the arrow-keys solution and the window-dragging solution need the moving- in-the- applet functionality allows _any_ window to be workspace- window- management; they're very very different.
mouse to be in the window to be moved. The
window-
moved to _any_ workspace, regardless of what windows are showing and
what the current workspace is. So please don't confuse window control
and virtual-
> Not that I don't think it's important to fix something like this (a
> thousand paper cuts and all that), but there's no need for the
> hyperbole.
The word hyperbole infers that Allen exaggerated something; I don't
find that to be the case. Nothing he said was an exaggeration, even
his wrap-up that this is a reputational damage issue. It is.
Kind regards, bit.ly/ reiber
-Paul Reiber, the guy who opened this bug in the first place and won't
let it die till its fixed
Email: <email address hidden>
Web: http://