Comment 6 for bug 444170

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Ted Gould (ted) wrote : Re: [Bug 444170] Re: empathy started automatically on incoming message

On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 04:27 +0000, Ken VanDine wrote:
> Let's get thoughts from Ted.

From IRC:

(09:10:06 AM) kenvandine: ted, bug 444170
(09:10:07 AM) mup: Bug #444170: empathy started automatically on
incoming message <amd64> <apport-bug> <Session Menu:New for ted>
<indicator-session (Ubuntu):Confirmed for ken-vandine>
<https://launchpad.net/bugs/444170>
(09:10:24 AM) ted: kenvandine: Is that a bug or a feature?
(09:10:33 AM) kenvandine: well... more like a disaster :)
(09:10:52 AM) ted: kenvandine: It's just that the session menu starts
telepathy.
(09:10:58 AM) kenvandine: yeah
(09:11:05 AM) ted: So we don't want that then?
(09:11:10 AM) kenvandine: well
(09:11:23 AM) kenvandine: i like that feature
(09:11:24 AM) kenvandine: but
(09:11:30 AM) kenvandine: we need a way to deal with pidgin users
(09:11:49 AM) ted: What do you mean?
(09:11:54 AM) ted: It doesn't start Pidgin.
(09:11:57 AM) kenvandine: although... if you have no accounts configured
in telepathy... i guess you won't get IMs that way anyway
(09:12:00 AM) kenvandine: i know
(09:12:15 AM) ted: Yes. You have to have accounts enabled.
(09:12:26 AM) kenvandine: if you are a pidgin user, and you get an IM...
it starts empathy
(09:12:30 AM) kenvandine: so maybe that is the answer
(09:12:39 AM) kenvandine: if you don't want to use empaty, don't enable
it :)
(09:12:44 AM) ted: Exactly.
(09:12:55 AM) kenvandine: actually
(09:12:59 AM) kenvandine: one step better
(09:13:18 AM) kenvandine: what if we first try to set status in pidgin,
if pidgin is running don't touch telepathy?
(09:13:56 AM) kenvandine: i could see people experimenting with empathy,
and assuming if they exit the program and use pidgin
(09:13:59 AM) ted: That seems a little crazy to me, as the behavior
changes based on whether Pidgin is running?
(09:14:01 AM) kenvandine: they will only be using pidgin
(09:14:10 AM) ted: I don't know how a user would discover that.
(09:14:15 AM) kenvandine: yeah... not claiming to have all the
answers :)
(09:14:28 AM) ted: The answer is to uninstall Pidgin on upgrade :)
(09:14:40 AM) kenvandine: :)
(09:15:50 AM) ted: So, none the less, it's fixable. I like it the way
that it is, but you guys can choose. Personally, I'd document how to
disable accounts in Empathy so that you're working on migrating
people... it's the final end goal.
(09:16:02 AM) kenvandine: ted, let me talk to rick
(09:16:19 AM) kenvandine: i tend to agree