> So are you proposing we get rid of the autolock functionality because we
> can't solve this bug? Or is there some other solution your providing here?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
> > Yes but that idle lock feature doesn't work and cannot be trusted. It
> would
> > be like saying trust SSL but its using a NULL cipher...
> >
> > --
> > Kristian Erik Hermansen
> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristianhermansen
> > https://profiles.google.com/kristian.hermansen
> > On Nov 4, 2013 8:55 PM, "encompass" <email address hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > I totally disagree.
> > > The computer should lock automatically when idle. Instead of solving
> the
> > > problem you want to get rid of the feature.
> > > There are times when people are distracted and walk away from the
> > > computer. If someone wanted to be malicious this would be their
> > > opportunity. Just do a little "Kevin Mitnik" and your in.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
> > > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tony -- exactly! Perfect analysis. Its a false sense of security
> which
> > > > should be abolished or rectified.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kristian Erik Hermansen
> > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristianhermansen
> > > > https://profiles.google.com/kristian.hermansen
> > > > On Nov 4, 2013 5:30 PM, "Tony" <email address hidden> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't have a problem with manually locking the screen, especially
> > as
> > > I
> > > > > have worked in secure Defence facilities where that is standard
> > > > > pracrtice.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I do have a problem with a software interface that falsely
> claims
> > > to
> > > > > provide a facility which in fact doesn't work correctly if at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > To eliminate the immediate problem, distros could get rid of the
> > broken
> > > > > "Lock" setting from the settings menu, and instead just add a
> notice
> > > > > that CTRL-ALT-L (or whatever) will lock the screen.
> > > > >
> > > > > The security issue is not that there isn't an effective automatic
> > lock,
> > > > > but that the software creates a false and misleading impression
> that
> > > > > such a facility exists. That part of the problem could surely be
> > fixed
> > > > > easily by changing the setting dialog box as suggested.
> > > > >
> > > > > My programming days are long over (anyone remember assembly
> > language?),
> > > > > and I don't know what is involved in removing the "Lock" setting
> from
> > > > > the Screensaver/Lock dialog box. If I did know, I'd do it myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > > > > duplicate bug report (1226854).
> > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/49579
> > > > >
> > > > > Title:
> > > > > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> > > > >
> > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > > > >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screensaver/+bug/49579/+subscriptions
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > > > duplicate bug report (139405).
> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/49579
> > > >
> > > > Title:
> > > > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> > > >
> > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > > >
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screensaver/+bug/49579/+subscriptions
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > > duplicate bug report (1226854).
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/49579
> > >
> > > Title:
> > > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> > >
> > > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screensaver/+bug/49579/+subscriptions
> > >
> >
> > --
> > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > duplicate bug report (139405).
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/49579
> >
> > Title:
> > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> >
> > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screensaver/+bug/49579/+subscriptions
> >
>
> --
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>
> Title:
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>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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>
Yes. Remove it since it is a decade long bug.
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> can't solve this bug? Or is there some other solution your providing here?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
> <email address hidden>> wrote:
>
> > Yes but that idle lock feature doesn't work and cannot be trusted. It
> would
> > be like saying trust SSL but its using a NULL cipher...
> >
> > --
> > Kristian Erik Hermansen
> > https:/
> > https:/
> > On Nov 4, 2013 8:55 PM, "encompass" <email address hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > I totally disagree.
> > > The computer should lock automatically when idle. Instead of solving
> the
> > > problem you want to get rid of the feature.
> > > There are times when people are distracted and walk away from the
> > > computer. If someone wanted to be malicious this would be their
> > > opportunity. Just do a little "Kevin Mitnik" and your in.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
> > > <email address hidden>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tony -- exactly! Perfect analysis. Its a false sense of security
> which
> > > > should be abolished or rectified.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kristian Erik Hermansen
> > > > https:/
> > > > https:/
> > > > On Nov 4, 2013 5:30 PM, "Tony" <email address hidden> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I don't have a problem with manually locking the screen, especially
> > as
> > > I
> > > > > have worked in secure Defence facilities where that is standard
> > > > > pracrtice.
> > > > >
> > > > > But I do have a problem with a software interface that falsely
> claims
> > > to
> > > > > provide a facility which in fact doesn't work correctly if at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > To eliminate the immediate problem, distros could get rid of the
> > broken
> > > > > "Lock" setting from the settings menu, and instead just add a
> notice
> > > > > that CTRL-ALT-L (or whatever) will lock the screen.
> > > > >
> > > > > The security issue is not that there isn't an effective automatic
> > lock,
> > > > > but that the software creates a false and misleading impression
> that
> > > > > such a facility exists. That part of the problem could surely be
> > fixed
> > > > > easily by changing the setting dialog box as suggested.
> > > > >
> > > > > My programming days are long over (anyone remember assembly
> > language?),
> > > > > and I don't know what is involved in removing the "Lock" setting
> from
> > > > > the Screensaver/Lock dialog box. If I did know, I'd do it myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > > > > duplicate bug report (1226854).
> > > > > https:/
> > > > >
> > > > > Title:
> > > > > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> > > > >
> > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > > > >
> > https:/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > > > duplicate bug report (139405).
> > > > https:/
> > > >
> > > > Title:
> > > > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> > > >
> > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > > >
> https:/
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> > > duplicate bug report (1226854).
> > > https:/
> > >
> > > Title:
> > > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> > >
> > > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > > https:/
> > >
> >
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> >
> > Title:
> > screen doesn't lock when some menu is open
> >
> > To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> > https:/
> >
>
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> Title:
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>
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>