Comment 13 for bug 33753

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 08:33:05PM -0000, Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote:
> I have had several matrox, intel and ati based graphics cards that with
> the default install would CRASH upon about half of the opengl-
> screensavers.

So, this is your hardware or upstream xorg drivers bug.

> If the screensavers that require 3D are in seperate packages, why are
> they even installed by default and/or available on a live-desktop. This
> is a packaging issue, not an upstream issue.

No, this is a buggy hardware or buggy upstream drivers issue, because
system should never crash - stability should never depend on some
software, which user can start, like 3D game or screensaver.

> Also I vote for priority 'critical'. Since on about half of the 3d cards
> out there, using the default open source drivers, they make the system
> crash.

If you got system crash you should report a critical bug against xorg
drivers, not agains 3D game or other software, which uses xorg.

> I will try to post some specific bug reports about all the hardware
> although I suspect they are already well known upstream.

Yes, you should report bugs agains xorg-driver-xxx packages or kernel
DRI drivers. Btw, I suggest you to try to test with older Ubuntu
versions, for example I noticed lots of crashes on several system with
ATI Radeon 9xxx driver with Ubuntu 6.06, but with Ubuntu 5.10 they works
fine and stable.