On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ryan Beard <email address hidden> wrote:
> Paul - I had a similar prognosis. My initial plan is to develop a
> universal workspace switcher - one that will query (and monitor) the
> window manager to determine the compositing engine, and then play along.
> I'm reading up on some of the compiz APIs now. I'd really like to
> incorporate some additional GUI mechanisms while I'm at it. For
> example, I think it would greatly enhance the functionality to have OS X
> Dock-like 'zoom-on-mouse-over' to allow for easier and more accurate
> selection/placement of windows within the applet. I probably won't get
> started coding until Monday, but hopefully I can have something to play
> with next week. This will be a bit of a learning experience for me, but
> I figure this is a good place to get introduced to linux development.
>
> -ryan
>
> On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 19:41 +0000, PaulReiber wrote:
>> Ryan - here's my understanding of this issue. I believe, at the heart
>> of the issue is that Compiz handles virtual desktops quite differently
>> than Metacity.
>>
>> Because of this, it "fakes" any apps using the Metacity virtual
>> desktop API into thinking there's only one virtual desktop. I'm not
>> sure of the details of how it does this; review the thread on this bug
>> for some leads (hopefully).
>>
>> I haven't reviewed any of the patches that've been identified, because
>> they slipped my attention; I wasn't aware any coding work had been
>> done by anyone to attempt to address this. I believe the key to doing
>> this right is to have the applet be compiz-aware, and use the proper
>> API if it's running; it'll be interesting to see what the patches do.
>>
>> Looking forward to collaborating with you on a solution.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> -Paul Reiber
>> Phone: (210)854-8253
>> Email: <email address hidden>
>> Web: http://bit.ly/reiber
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ryan Beard <email address hidden> wrote:
>> > Thanks Paul. I've downloaded the Grub development kit, and I'll be
>> > setting up conary today. I'll let you how things go.
>> >
>> > -ryan
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 22:36 +0000, PaulReiber wrote:
>> >> Ryan,
>> >>
>> >> If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
>> >> certainly willing to help.
>> >>
>> >> I've been programming/administering UNIX for ~30 years, Linux for ~15.
>> >> My strengths are... well, pretty wide-reaching, but not so much in the
>> >> GUI/Gnome/Window-manager/Virtual-Desktop coding details, or I would
>> >> have fixed this myself a long time ago.
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if/when you get stuck and I'll do my best to get you
>> >> un-stuck. Contact me off-list at <email address hidden> any time.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >> -Paul Reiber
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Ryan Beard <email address hidden> wrote:
>> >> > Paul -
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm actually referring to the patch attached to this bug (posted in
>> >> > comment #34: betterpatch.diff). It appears to target pager.c, but I
>> >> > can't find that file in 10.04.
>> >> >
>> >> > I haven't researched the Fedora patch yet, but I will look into that.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm new to Gnome, and linux in general (been an
>> >> > OpenSuse/Kubuntu/LinuxMint user for the past year), but I actually
>> >> > noticed this bug within the first 30 minutes after installation. I'd
>> >> > like to help if at all possible (I was a heavy .net programmer, but I've
>> >> > been living in Qt Creator for the last 6 months), but I figured I should
>> >> > start with whatever work has already been accomplished - this patch, and
>> >> > the alleged Fedora patch - and build from there.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the help.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Can't drag a window to another workspace
>> >> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/150690
>> >> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> >> > of a duplicate bug.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Can't drag a window to another workspace
>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/150690
>> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> > of a duplicate bug.
>> >
>>
>
> --
> Can't drag a window to another workspace
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/150690
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>
Go, Ryan, Go! Wahoo!
Kind regards, bit.ly/ reiber
-Paul Reiber
Phone: (210)854-8253
Email: <email address hidden>
Web: http://
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> Paul - I had a similar prognosis. My initial plan is to develop a
> universal workspace switcher - one that will query (and monitor) the
> window manager to determine the compositing engine, and then play along.
> I'm reading up on some of the compiz APIs now. I'd really like to
> incorporate some additional GUI mechanisms while I'm at it. For
> example, I think it would greatly enhance the functionality to have OS X
> Dock-like 'zoom-on-
> selection/placement of windows within the applet. I probably won't get
> started coding until Monday, but hopefully I can have something to play
> with next week. This will be a bit of a learning experience for me, but
> I figure this is a good place to get introduced to linux development.
>
> -ryan
>
> On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 19:41 +0000, PaulReiber wrote:
>> Ryan - here's my understanding of this issue. I believe, at the heart
>> of the issue is that Compiz handles virtual desktops quite differently
>> than Metacity.
>>
>> Because of this, it "fakes" any apps using the Metacity virtual
>> desktop API into thinking there's only one virtual desktop. I'm not
>> sure of the details of how it does this; review the thread on this bug
>> for some leads (hopefully).
>>
>> I haven't reviewed any of the patches that've been identified, because
>> they slipped my attention; I wasn't aware any coding work had been
>> done by anyone to attempt to address this. I believe the key to doing
>> this right is to have the applet be compiz-aware, and use the proper
>> API if it's running; it'll be interesting to see what the patches do.
>>
>> Looking forward to collaborating with you on a solution.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> -Paul Reiber
>> Phone: (210)854-8253
>> Email: <email address hidden>
>> Web: http://
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Ryan Beard <email address hidden> wrote:
>> > Thanks Paul. I've downloaded the Grub development kit, and I'll be
>> > setting up conary today. I'll let you how things go.
>> >
>> > -ryan
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 22:36 +0000, PaulReiber wrote:
>> >> Ryan,
>> >>
>> >> If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
>> >> certainly willing to help.
>> >>
>> >> I've been programming/
>> >> My strengths are... well, pretty wide-reaching, but not so much in the
>> >> GUI/Gnome/
>> >> have fixed this myself a long time ago.
>> >>
>> >> Let me know if/when you get stuck and I'll do my best to get you
>> >> un-stuck. Contact me off-list at <email address hidden> any time.
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >> -Paul Reiber
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Ryan Beard <email address hidden> wrote:
>> >> > Paul -
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm actually referring to the patch attached to this bug (posted in
>> >> > comment #34: betterpatch.diff). It appears to target pager.c, but I
>> >> > can't find that file in 10.04.
>> >> >
>> >> > I haven't researched the Fedora patch yet, but I will look into that.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm new to Gnome, and linux in general (been an
>> >> > OpenSuse/
>> >> > noticed this bug within the first 30 minutes after installation. I'd
>> >> > like to help if at all possible (I was a heavy .net programmer, but I've
>> >> > been living in Qt Creator for the last 6 months), but I figured I should
>> >> > start with whatever work has already been accomplished - this patch, and
>> >> > the alleged Fedora patch - and build from there.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the help.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Can't drag a window to another workspace
>> >> > https:/
>> >> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> >> > of a duplicate bug.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Can't drag a window to another workspace
>> > https:/
>> > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
>> > of a duplicate bug.
>> >
>>
>
> --
> Can't drag a window to another workspace
> https:/
> You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber
> of a duplicate bug.
>