Brian J. Murrell [2008-10-23 20:50 -0000]:
> Indeed. But I can visually inspect stack traces. I cannot do that with
> the CoreDump.
Right. Just to be clear, I am not *really* happy about sending core
dumps either, but it's currently the only practical method to get any
helpful information out of most crashes.
> And just as I should have the option to not send the CoreDump,
If the stack trace has some information already, apport does offer to
send a "reduced" report, which does not have the core dump.
> I should be able to deselect sending any of the stack trace
> attachments too.
That's a possible enhancement indeed.
> Yes, that's a fair point. It would be nice if the apport gui did
> everything one needed to make sure fully symbolic stack traces were
> sent.
This would be a possible option for developers, yes. That's bug 75901.
However, it isn't the standard mode of operation because it needs lots
and lots of debug symbols to download.
> Yeah. I have seen that. The problem is, I think, that the average user
> still does not understand the implication. My mom for example could be
> looking for a recipe with firefox and it crashes.
Right, she can't, and I don't expect her to. That's why we disable
apport in stable releases. :-)
Hi Brian,
Brian J. Murrell [2008-10-23 20:50 -0000]:
> Indeed. But I can visually inspect stack traces. I cannot do that with
> the CoreDump.
Right. Just to be clear, I am not *really* happy about sending core
dumps either, but it's currently the only practical method to get any
helpful information out of most crashes.
> And just as I should have the option to not send the CoreDump,
If the stack trace has some information already, apport does offer to
send a "reduced" report, which does not have the core dump.
> I should be able to deselect sending any of the stack trace
> attachments too.
That's a possible enhancement indeed.
> Yes, that's a fair point. It would be nice if the apport gui did
> everything one needed to make sure fully symbolic stack traces were
> sent.
This would be a possible option for developers, yes. That's bug 75901.
However, it isn't the standard mode of operation because it needs lots
and lots of debug symbols to download.
> Yeah. I have seen that. The problem is, I think, that the average user
> still does not understand the implication. My mom for example could be
> looking for a recipe with firefox and it crashes.
Right, she can't, and I don't expect her to. That's why we disable
apport in stable releases. :-)
Thank you,
Martin