Caja doesn’t start

~/Scrivania$ caja --version
MATE caja 1.26.1

~/Scrivania$ caja --check
running caja_self_check_file_utilities
running caja_self_check_file_operations
running caja_self_check_directory
running caja_self_check_file
running caja_self_check_icon_container
running caja_self_check_file_utilities
running caja_self_check_file_operations
running caja_self_check_directory
running caja_self_check_file
running caja_self_check_icon_container

~/Scrivania$ caja
Could not register the application: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying

~/Scrivania$ caja --no-desktop
Could not register the application: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying

~/Scrivania$ caja --force-desktop
Could not register the application: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying

~/Scrivania$ sudo caja ##This work well
[sudo] password di ugone:
Initializing caja-share extension
Initializing caja-sendto extension
Initializing caja-open-terminal extension
Initializing caja-wallpaper extension
Initializing caja-image-converter extension
~/Scrivania$ neofetch
ugone@ugone

OS: Ubuntu MATE Lunar Lobster (development branch 23.04) x86_64
Host: X570S AERO G -CF
Kernel: 6.1.0-16-generic
Uptime: 37 mins
Packages: 3845 (dpkg), 5 (flatpak)
Shell: bash 5.2.15
Resolution: 1920x1080
DE: MATE 1.26.0
WM: Metacity (Marco)
Theme: Yaru-MATE-dark [GTK2/3]
Icons: Yaru-MATE-dark [GTK2/3]
Terminal: mate-terminal
Terminal Font: Ubuntu Mono 13
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X (16) @ 3.800GHz
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon RX 6600/6600 XT/6600M
Memory: 1886MiB / 31990MiB

Good morning
I have a pc with 3 ssd and on the first and second ssd I installed ubuntu mate 23.04 and on the third I put debian sid
I have updated ubuntu mate 23.04 and on both of them (since a couple of days)I get the following.
On machine 1 the desktop (displaying folders and files) shuts down if I try to do operations and on machine 2 it doesn't start at all (I only have the empty desktop with no icons or folders. On machine 2 I reset caja with the following system

dconf reset -f /org/mate/caja/
dconf reset -f /org/mate/caja-open-terminal/
dconf reset -f /org/mate/desktop/background/
rm -rf ~/.config/caja ~/.gtk-bookmarks ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks
killall caja
without getting any results.
on both if sudo caja works fine
this link https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5ob1g2y8znebyl/simplescreenrecorder-2023-03-20_13.49.17.mkv?dl=0 shows what the cursor does on machine 2
If you need further proof or testing I am at your disposal
Thanks