tutorial needed for opencog framework

I wonder if it makes sense to wait for the tutorial till PLN is usefully integrated. Because, PLN actually does interesting-looking, transparently AI-ish stuff, whereas without PLN there, it's pretty much just a framework that doesn't do anything.

Either that or we should wait till the Rex / Pet Brain stuff is fully integrated ... but the problem with that is, it's more complex with a lot of moving parts, hence perhaps less suitable for a tutorial...

Attention allocation is nice, but, without some other AI process going on, it's not going to seem too pointful to anyone...

PLN + Attention Allocation are a good idea. The Pet Brain is a
horrible first tutorial idea.

On Aug 6, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote:

> I wonder if it makes sense to wait for the tutorial till PLN is
> usefully
> integrated. Because, PLN actually does interesting-looking,
> transparently AI-ish stuff, whereas without PLN there, it's pretty
> much
> just a framework that doesn't do anything.
>
> Either that or we should wait till the Rex / Pet Brain stuff is fully
> integrated ... but the problem with that is, it's more complex with a
> lot of moving parts, hence perhaps less suitable for a tutorial...
>
> Attention allocation is nice, but, without some other AI process going
> on, it's not going to seem too pointful to anyone...
>
> --
> tutorial needed for opencog framework
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255245
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of OpenCog
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>
> Status in OpenCog Framework: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> The OpenCog Framework should be released with a good tutorial for
> beginners, similar to the excellent "OpenBiomind: A Step-by-Step
> Tutorial" (tutorial.pdf) at http://openbiomind.googlecode.com/files/openbiomind-extras_0.60.zip
>
> Note that a prerequisite for beginning substantive work on this bug
> is to find an interesting and suitable example application,
> potentially utilizing in-development components from OpenCog Prime
> which is slated for release some many months (at least) *after* the
> OpenCog Framework, so it's okay if pre-release code and properly
> licensed datasets are included with the tutorial bundle (as with the
> openbiomind-extras example above).
>
> Please discuss ideas on #opencog and http://opencog.org/wiki/Talk:OpenCogFrameworkTutorial

--
Cassio Pennachin
CEO, Vetta Labs
www.vettalabs.com -- +55(31)3421-6933

Agreed ...

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Cassio Pennachin <email address hidden>wrote:

> PLN + Attention Allocation are a good idea. The Pet Brain is a
> horrible first tutorial idea.
>
> On Aug 6, 2008, at 8:58 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote:
>
> > I wonder if it makes sense to wait for the tutorial till PLN is
> > usefully
> > integrated. Because, PLN actually does interesting-looking,
> > transparently AI-ish stuff, whereas without PLN there, it's pretty
> > much
> > just a framework that doesn't do anything.
> >
> > Either that or we should wait till the Rex / Pet Brain stuff is fully
> > integrated ... but the problem with that is, it's more complex with a
> > lot of moving parts, hence perhaps less suitable for a tutorial...
> >
> > Attention allocation is nice, but, without some other AI process going
> > on, it's not going to seem too pointful to anyone...
> >
> > --
> > tutorial needed for opencog framework
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255245
> > You received this bug notification because you are a member of OpenCog
> > Core Developers, which is subscribed to OpenCog Framework.
> >
> > Status in OpenCog Framework: Confirmed
> >
> > Bug description:
> > The OpenCog Framework should be released with a good tutorial for
> > beginners, similar to the excellent "OpenBiomind: A Step-by-Step
> > Tutorial" (tutorial.pdf) at
> http://openbiomind.googlecode.com/files/openbiomind-extras_0.60.zip
> >
> > Note that a prerequisite for beginning substantive work on this bug
> > is to find an interesting and suitable example application,
> > potentially utilizing in-development components from OpenCog Prime
> > which is slated for release some many months (at least) *after* the
> > OpenCog Framework, so it's okay if pre-release code and properly
> > licensed datasets are included with the tutorial bundle (as with the
> > openbiomind-extras example above).
> >
> > Please discuss ideas on #opencog and
> http://opencog.org/wiki/Talk:OpenCogFrameworkTutorial
>
> --
> Cassio Pennachin
> CEO, Vetta Labs
> www.vettalabs.com -- +55(31)3421-6933
>
> --
> tutorial needed for opencog framework
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/255245
> You received this bug notification because you are a member of OpenCog
> Core Developers, which is subscribed to OpenCog Framework.
>
> Status in OpenCog Framework: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> The OpenCog Framework should be released with a good tutorial for
> beginners, similar to the excellent "OpenBiomind: A Step-by-Step Tutorial"
> (tutorial.pdf) at
> http://openbiomind.googlecode.com/files/openbiomind-extras_0.60.zip
>
> Note that a prerequisite for beginning substantive work on this bug is to
> find an interesting and suitable example application, potentially utilizing
> in-development components from OpenCog Prime which is slated for release
> some many months (at least) *after* the OpenCog Framework, so it's okay if
> pre-release code and properly licensed datasets are included with the
> tutorial bundle (as with the openbiomind-extras example above).
>
> Please discuss ideas on #opencog and
> http://opencog.org/wiki/Talk:OpenCogFrameworkTutorial
>

--
Ben Goertzel, PhD
CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC
Di...

cf example video tutorials from the Ocropus project http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0B3367BC0E5CAF8D