with the last batch of kde uploads, and ~50 packages ending up in broken state, needing manual give-backs, this did cost me a lot of work-time. and this is not kde, it's a constant pain, which always requires manual intervention.
this should have high priority.
<doko> Riddell, ScottK: I think we need to improve the kde situation for build-deps/breaks
<doko> e.g. kdenetwork fails with:
<ScottK> doko: Soyuz just needs to implement the same BD unistallable condition Debian has and it'll be fine.
<doko> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
<doko> kde-sc-dev-latest : Breaks: kde-workspace-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu4.1 is to be installed
<doko> Breaks: kdepimlibs5-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
<doko> Breaks: libkonq5-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
<doko> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
<doko> apt-get failed.
<doko> and doesn't automatically retry
<ScottK> Yep. On Debian that would get a BD uninstallable state, not a failed build and would eventually work.
<doko> if you know that, don't use it
<doko> just adjust the version for the b-d's
<doko> ScottK, is there a bug about this?
<ScottK> So you want us to fork the KDE packages from Debian?
<ScottK> I don't think that's going to happen.
<doko> ScottK, no, contribute to it. these adjusted versions don't hurt debian
<ScottK> No, the versions are correct.
with the last batch of kde uploads, and ~50 packages ending up in broken state, needing manual give-backs, this did cost me a lot of work-time. and this is not kde, it's a constant pain, which always requires manual intervention.
this should have high priority.
<doko> Riddell, ScottK: I think we need to improve the kde situation for build-deps/breaks
<doko> e.g. kdenetwork fails with:
<ScottK> doko: Soyuz just needs to implement the same BD unistallable condition Debian has and it'll be fine.
<doko> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
<doko> kde-sc-dev-latest : Breaks: kde-workspace-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3a-0ubuntu4.1 is to be installed
<doko> Breaks: kdepimlibs5-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
<doko> Breaks: libkonq5-dev (< 4:4.7.90) but 4:4.7.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
<doko> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
<doko> apt-get failed.
<doko> and doesn't automatically retry
<ScottK> Yep. On Debian that would get a BD uninstallable state, not a failed build and would eventually work.
<doko> if you know that, don't use it
<doko> just adjust the version for the b-d's
<doko> ScottK, is there a bug about this?
<ScottK> So you want us to fork the KDE packages from Debian?
<ScottK> I don't think that's going to happen.
<doko> ScottK, no, contribute to it. these adjusted versions don't hurt debian
<ScottK> No, the versions are correct.