If there can't be a "safely remove" option, could you at least add an
"unmount all partitions on device" option or something similar so that
people don't have to right-click and unmount X partitions separately before
they can unplug the device? I'm guessing it can't be that hard to find
other partitions mounted from a certain device if one has been selected.
Anyway, from all the machines with Linux installed I've worked on over the
years I haven't once encountered an internally wired USB device and I have
to deal with my multi-TB external disks and their numerous partitions
daily. I think that a mistake of forgetting to unmount one of 6-7
partitions and causing the loss of data greatly outweights having to reboot
your machine if you accidentaly unmount an internally wired CD drive or
something.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Blair Zimmer <email address hidden> wrote:
> Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote on 2012-11-13: #13
> The "safe remove" functionality was removed from udisks2, and it's not
> planned to bring it back. It caused too much trouble with e. g. devices
> which are internally wired to an USB port, and you could never use them
> again until after a reboot. Also, having two options was a constant source
> of confusion. So I'm afraid this is "wontfix" from the distro side.
>
> Martin, There is myself and I am sure many others who find this
> justification "unacceptable"! I have several systems in which devices
> are connected internally via USB headers/ports. Yes, the option does
> exist, be it Ubuntu 12.04.1, Windows XP-7, etc. to safely remove these
> devices via a right-click, even though they are devices that would not
> normally require such action. Examples of these devices are a wireless
> N network adapter, an internal media card reader with USB port, etc.
> Quite frankly, it comes down to a user exercising diligence when right-
> clicking on any device and knowing what device it is that they are about
> to safely remove beforehand! Saying that it causes too much trouble for
> devices that would then require a reboot to use again is in my opinion,
> a cop-out! It is a chance that most users would be willing to take, to
> err on the side of caution when it comes to properly powering down a
> device first before removing it! If it is a choice between having the
> safely remove command available to remove a device properly by
> completely powering it down or not having the safely remove command
> available at all in an attempt to eliminate the confusion that exists in
> correlation to the eject/unmount commands while helping to prevent some
> users from accidentally removing the wrong device, I think the majority
> of users do not find it as confusing as you implicate. I and others I
> am sure would rather have the option to safely power down our devices
> using the safely remove command and thus this is a request to have it
> formally reinstated. This too, has prevented me from upgrading to
> Ubuntu 12.10!
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> duplicate bug report (1081716).
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1067876
>
> Title:
> [quantal] Missing "Safely Remove Drive" and "Eject" options from
> Quicklists. Only have "Unmount".
>
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If there can't be a "safely remove" option, could you at least add an
"unmount all partitions on device" option or something similar so that
people don't have to right-click and unmount X partitions separately before
they can unplug the device? I'm guessing it can't be that hard to find
other partitions mounted from a certain device if one has been selected.
Anyway, from all the machines with Linux installed I've worked on over the
years I haven't once encountered an internally wired USB device and I have
to deal with my multi-TB external disks and their numerous partitions
daily. I think that a mistake of forgetting to unmount one of 6-7
partitions and causing the loss of data greatly outweights having to reboot
your machine if you accidentaly unmount an internally wired CD drive or
something.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Blair Zimmer <email address hidden> wrote:
> Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote on 2012-11-13: #13 /bugs.launchpad .net/bugs/ 1067876 /bugs.launchpad .net/gvfs/ +bug/1067876/ +subscriptions
> The "safe remove" functionality was removed from udisks2, and it's not
> planned to bring it back. It caused too much trouble with e. g. devices
> which are internally wired to an USB port, and you could never use them
> again until after a reboot. Also, having two options was a constant source
> of confusion. So I'm afraid this is "wontfix" from the distro side.
>
> Martin, There is myself and I am sure many others who find this
> justification "unacceptable"! I have several systems in which devices
> are connected internally via USB headers/ports. Yes, the option does
> exist, be it Ubuntu 12.04.1, Windows XP-7, etc. to safely remove these
> devices via a right-click, even though they are devices that would not
> normally require such action. Examples of these devices are a wireless
> N network adapter, an internal media card reader with USB port, etc.
> Quite frankly, it comes down to a user exercising diligence when right-
> clicking on any device and knowing what device it is that they are about
> to safely remove beforehand! Saying that it causes too much trouble for
> devices that would then require a reboot to use again is in my opinion,
> a cop-out! It is a chance that most users would be willing to take, to
> err on the side of caution when it comes to properly powering down a
> device first before removing it! If it is a choice between having the
> safely remove command available to remove a device properly by
> completely powering it down or not having the safely remove command
> available at all in an attempt to eliminate the confusion that exists in
> correlation to the eject/unmount commands while helping to prevent some
> users from accidentally removing the wrong device, I think the majority
> of users do not find it as confusing as you implicate. I and others I
> am sure would rather have the option to safely power down our devices
> using the safely remove command and thus this is a request to have it
> formally reinstated. This too, has prevented me from upgrading to
> Ubuntu 12.10!
>
> --
> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a
> duplicate bug report (1081716).
> https:/
>
> Title:
> [quantal] Missing "Safely Remove Drive" and "Eject" options from
> Quicklists. Only have "Unmount".
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
> https:/
>