On 28/08/2020 22:19, vexorian wrote:
> Maybe Gnome developers and Canonical can live in a pretend world where a
> Hamburger menu is a remotely-acceptable UX in A DESKTOP OS, but for
> those of us who use Ubuntu professionally this design is just not
> practical.
You are of course entirely correct. Hamburger menus are eye-wateringly
poor fallbacks at the best of times, and it's frustrating for me too to
see them all over the desktop. I say this to make the point that even
though we care, we are simply not able to sustain a divergent UX. I
loved the work we did on Unity, controversial as it was, and believe it
was taking free software desktops in a good direction, we just couldn't
afford it, and that was that.
Perhaps in future you'll draw the distinction between the things people
care about and the things they are able to change. We are, right now,
bringing a very wide range of good things to bear in the field of
desktop, appliances, clouds, containers. We just can't manage to have an
independent desktop design and delivery program, which I know from
experience is a huge amount of work. I'm grateful we can collaborate
with existing open source teams, we ship GNOME by default but we also
take *care* to help KDE, Mate, and several others with fewer hamburger
menus.
On 28/08/2020 22:19, vexorian wrote:
> Maybe Gnome developers and Canonical can live in a pretend world where a
> Hamburger menu is a remotely-acceptable UX in A DESKTOP OS, but for
> those of us who use Ubuntu professionally this design is just not
> practical.
You are of course entirely correct. Hamburger menus are eye-wateringly
poor fallbacks at the best of times, and it's frustrating for me too to
see them all over the desktop. I say this to make the point that even
though we care, we are simply not able to sustain a divergent UX. I
loved the work we did on Unity, controversial as it was, and believe it
was taking free software desktops in a good direction, we just couldn't
afford it, and that was that.
Perhaps in future you'll draw the distinction between the things people
care about and the things they are able to change. We are, right now,
bringing a very wide range of good things to bear in the field of
desktop, appliances, clouds, containers. We just can't manage to have an
independent desktop design and delivery program, which I know from
experience is a huge amount of work. I'm grateful we can collaborate
with existing open source teams, we ship GNOME by default but we also
take *care* to help KDE, Mate, and several others with fewer hamburger
menus.
Mark