| 2011-03-10 15:31:18 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
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| 2011-03-10 15:31:36 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
bug task added |
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| 2011-03-10 15:31:46 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
tags |
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sniffles |
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| 2011-03-10 15:32:21 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are completely hidden.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." |
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| 2011-03-10 17:27:04 |
Alex Launi |
unity: status |
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Incomplete |
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| 2011-03-10 17:27:11 |
Alex Launi |
tags |
sniffles |
needs-design sniffles |
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| 2011-03-11 13:57:38 |
Didier Roche-Tolomelli |
unity (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Incomplete |
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| 2011-03-11 15:03:36 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: status |
New |
Invalid |
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| 2011-03-11 15:03:39 |
John Lea |
unity: status |
Incomplete |
Invalid |
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| 2011-03-11 15:03:44 |
John Lea |
unity (Ubuntu): status |
Incomplete |
Invalid |
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| 2011-03-11 15:14:25 |
John Lea |
tags |
needs-design sniffles |
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| 2011-03-11 15:26:52 |
Paul Sladen |
ayatana-design: status |
Invalid |
Won't Fix |
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| 2011-03-11 18:42:58 |
Vish |
bug |
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| 2011-03-23 09:15:51 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity." |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." |
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| 2011-03-23 09:37:17 |
Florian Boucault |
bug task added |
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unity-2d |
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| 2011-03-23 09:37:28 |
Florian Boucault |
unity-2d: status |
New |
Invalid |
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| 2011-03-24 12:04:21 |
Sean Hodges |
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| 2011-03-24 12:09:27 |
Alan Pope 🍺🐧🐱 🦄 |
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| 2011-03-24 12:41:50 |
Joey-Elijah Sneddon |
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| 2011-03-24 13:41:23 |
Yann Dìnendal |
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| 2011-03-24 17:31:54 |
Diska |
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| 2011-03-24 22:41:42 |
David |
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| 2011-04-07 19:11:19 |
Ben Williams |
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| 2011-07-02 18:57:24 |
Bracken |
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| 2011-08-25 20:43:42 |
Jonathan Meek |
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| 2011-10-18 13:08:50 |
Marc Deslauriers |
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| 2011-10-18 22:43:20 |
Jiri Grönroos |
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| 2011-10-19 00:17:48 |
tekstr1der |
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| 2011-10-20 22:55:34 |
Jean-Philippe Orsini |
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| 2011-11-09 20:50:34 |
Marcel Leonard van der Grijn |
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| 2012-03-04 17:25:04 |
Camilla Löwy |
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| 2012-04-12 14:58:15 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: status |
Won't Fix |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-12 14:58:22 |
John Lea |
unity-2d: status |
Invalid |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-12 14:58:28 |
John Lea |
unity (Ubuntu): status |
Invalid |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-12 14:58:33 |
John Lea |
unity: status |
Invalid |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-12 14:58:42 |
John Lea |
marked as duplicate |
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682788 |
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| 2012-04-12 14:59:36 |
John Lea |
removed duplicate marker |
682788 |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:05 |
John Lea |
description |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible." |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
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Desired change:
Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10.
The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance':
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Menus
Location: Global/Local
Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed
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More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:10 |
John Lea |
tags |
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udp |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:13 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: assignee |
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John Lea (johnlea) |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:18 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: importance |
Undecided |
High |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:21 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: status |
Confirmed |
Fix Committed |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:42 |
John Lea |
unity: status |
Confirmed |
In Progress |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:46 |
John Lea |
unity (Ubuntu): status |
Confirmed |
In Progress |
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| 2012-04-12 15:00:51 |
John Lea |
unity: milestone |
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backlog |
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| 2012-04-13 20:35:43 |
Launchpad Janitor |
unity-2d (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-18 06:51:12 |
ShakI |
bug |
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| 2012-04-22 12:49:35 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
Ubuntu Natty alpha 3
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, but oddly displaced from the right edge of the Ubuntu button.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
And in bug 720424, Jono Bacon reports that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
-------------------------------------
Desired change:
Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10.
The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance':
-------
Menus
Location: Global/Local
Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed
-------
More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 735233 (about adding an option for visibility) or bug 682788 (about reaching the menu on large screens). Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about the default visibility. |
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| 2012-04-22 13:45:41 |
John Lea |
marked as duplicate |
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682788 |
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| 2012-04-22 13:45:49 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: assignee |
John Lea (johnlea) |
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| 2012-04-22 13:45:51 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: importance |
High |
Undecided |
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| 2012-04-22 13:45:57 |
John Lea |
ayatana-design: status |
Fix Committed |
New |
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| 2012-04-22 13:46:04 |
John Lea |
unity: status |
In Progress |
New |
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| 2012-04-22 13:46:13 |
John Lea |
unity (Ubuntu): status |
In Progress |
New |
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| 2012-04-22 13:46:17 |
John Lea |
unity-2d (Ubuntu): status |
Confirmed |
New |
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| 2012-04-22 13:46:29 |
John Lea |
unity-2d: status |
Confirmed |
New |
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| 2012-04-22 13:56:41 |
John Lea |
changed duplicate marker |
682788 |
735233 |
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| 2012-04-22 14:08:06 |
Launchpad Janitor |
unity (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-22 14:08:06 |
Launchpad Janitor |
unity-2d (Ubuntu): status |
New |
Confirmed |
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| 2012-04-23 07:00:58 |
John Lea |
changed duplicate marker |
735233 |
682788 |
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| 2012-05-22 13:07:14 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
description |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04 beta
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 735233 (about adding an option for visibility) or bug 682788 (about reaching the menu on large screens). Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about the default visibility. |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. |
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| 2012-05-22 13:07:19 |
Matthew Paul Thomas |
removed duplicate marker |
682788 |
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| 2012-05-22 16:59:52 |
John Lea |
description |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*. |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*.
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Desired change:
Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project.
The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance':
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Menus
Location: Global/Local
Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed
-------
More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) |
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| 2012-05-22 17:00:00 |
John Lea |
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| 2012-05-22 17:04:48 |
John Lea |
description |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*.
-------------------------------------
Desired change:
Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issue described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note this is the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project.
The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance':
-------
Menus
Location: Global/Local
Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed
-------
More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) |
Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu 11.10, Ubuntu 12.04
1. Log in to Unity, and try to connect to a server: "File" > "Connect to Server".
2. Launch Firefox, and try to select an item from the "Bookmarks" menu.
What happens:
1. The "File" menu, and the rest of Nautilus's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar is blank.
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear.
2. The "Bookmarks" menu, and the rest of Firefox's menus, are hidden by default.
- Unless you mouse over it, the menu bar contains only the text "Firefox Web Browser", which isn't useful at all (especially, but not only, since the real name of the application -- "Mozilla Firefox" -- is already present in the window title bar).
- When you mouse over it, the menus appear, partly but not completely replacing the previous text: "Firefox W File Edit View…".
What should happen: Menus should be visible by default, so that you can know that they exist without scrubbing the screen, and so that you can see where a menu is each time you aim for it.
The current behavior has led some people (including, this week, one of my design colleagues) to conclude that Ubuntu applications don't have menus when they do. For example <http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/gnome-shell-vs-ubuntu-unity-which-desktop-wins/2291>: "One of the most handy menu entries in GNOME (for me at least) is the Connect to Server entry in the Places menu. This allows the user to connect to nearly any type of server quickly and easily. The user can even connect to a Windows Share from here. In Unity - you won’t find that. In fact, you will be hard pressed to find any means to connect to a server in Ubuntu Unity."
In bug 720424, Jono Bacon reported that "when we did some developer tools usability testing last week and on some other occasions when I have had someone use Unity, I have noticed that some folks don't realize there is a menu there as it is not visible."
This was confirmed by usability testing of Ubuntu 11.04, where 2 out of the 10 people who needed to use a menu item could not find the menus at all -- and of the 8 who did find them, 7 did so only when the window was maximized. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-April/002970.html (Usability testing results of Ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04 have never been published, but this part of the design did not change.)
Do not confuse this bug with bug 682788, which is about adding an option for visibility. Adding any options would not fix this bug, which is about menus being hidden *by default*.
-------------------------------------
Desired change:
Implement the 'Enhanced Menu' project for 12.10. This project will address the issues described in this bug and also issues described in the duplicates of this bus. Note the 'official' bug that tracks the implementation of this project is bug #682788
The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance':
-------
Menus
Location: Global/Local
Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed
-------
More details to follow during the 12.10 cycle... ;-) |
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| 2012-05-29 14:14:25 |
Omer Akram |
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Omer Akram |
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Omer Akram |
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Omer Akram |
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Omer Akram |
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Omer Akram |
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