Activity log for bug #1917230

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2021-02-28 16:31:51 Daniel LaSalle bug added bug
2021-02-28 16:33:00 Daniel LaSalle description Again a typical "Sunday "bug"": When booting from a 20.04.1.ISO from USB on "regular" ATX specs, when using TTY7 and issuing a scp command (one long enough for something(am suspecting power settings to kick in?)) TTY7 goes FUBAR and only the cursor works/shows (As both an arrow and as text selecting cursor). To explain myself differently: 1. boot 20.04.1 ISO -> select try ubuntu 2. plug in RJ45 cable, get on LAN 3. ALT+T + cd /somewhere/with/big/files (mine was 12 Gb on a 10/100/1000) 4. Come back (maybe 15-20 minutes after) and try using TTY7: is fully blank yet the mouse curse moves and only shows 2 option: regular point and text selecting tip. Accessing other TTYs (CTRL+ALT+F1 -> F6) works and displays properly. Conclusion: live session settings need to be rethought and possibly, even though it's very fun for a end user to have EVERYTHING in place to enjoy the look & feel, it has other costs. Maybe total disregard power settings when using life? Or maybe add an auto-reminder after 15(?) minutes of usage that user is on a life system and that they should install (We appreciate your time but we would like to remind you that this system will expire in 45 minutes(or whatever you think is the right course of action). At the end of the day, and most often than not in my perspective, live systems are either used to *quickly* shows the goods (max 15 minutes) OR be used as salvaging/rescue systems and in which case the process can take several hours/DAYS to complete. In both scenario it would be fun if UM could acomodate and consider those perspectives. Cheers Again a typical "Sunday "bug"": When booting from a 20.04.1.ISO from USB on "regular" ATX specs, when using TTY7 and issuing a scp command (one long enough for something(am suspecting power settings to kick in?) to happen) then TTY7 goes full black and only the cursor displays/moves while nothing else is possible (no keyboard shortcut do anything) To explain myself differently: 1. boot 20.04.1 ISO -> select try ubuntu 2. plug in RJ45 cable, get on LAN 3. ALT+T + cd /somewhere/with/big/files (mine was 12 Gb on a 10/100/1000) 4. Come back (maybe 15-20 minutes after) and try using TTY7: is fully blank yet the mouse curse moves and only shows 2 option: regular point and text selecting tip. Accessing other TTYs (CTRL+ALT+F1 -> F6) works and displays properly. Conclusion: live session settings need to be rethought and possibly, even though it's very fun for a end user to have EVERYTHING in place to enjoy the look & feel, it has other costs. Maybe total disregard power settings when using life? Or maybe add an auto-reminder after 15(?) minutes of usage that user is on a life system and that they should install (We appreciate your time but we would like to remind you that this system will expire in 45 minutes(or whatever you think is the right course of action). At the end of the day, and most often than not in my perspective, live systems are either used to *quickly* shows the goods (max 15 minutes) OR be used as salvaging/rescue systems and in which case the process can take several hours/DAYS to complete. In both scenario it would be fun if UM could acomodate and consider those perspectives. Cheers
2021-02-28 16:41:30 Daniel LaSalle description Again a typical "Sunday "bug"": When booting from a 20.04.1.ISO from USB on "regular" ATX specs, when using TTY7 and issuing a scp command (one long enough for something(am suspecting power settings to kick in?) to happen) then TTY7 goes full black and only the cursor displays/moves while nothing else is possible (no keyboard shortcut do anything) To explain myself differently: 1. boot 20.04.1 ISO -> select try ubuntu 2. plug in RJ45 cable, get on LAN 3. ALT+T + cd /somewhere/with/big/files (mine was 12 Gb on a 10/100/1000) 4. Come back (maybe 15-20 minutes after) and try using TTY7: is fully blank yet the mouse curse moves and only shows 2 option: regular point and text selecting tip. Accessing other TTYs (CTRL+ALT+F1 -> F6) works and displays properly. Conclusion: live session settings need to be rethought and possibly, even though it's very fun for a end user to have EVERYTHING in place to enjoy the look & feel, it has other costs. Maybe total disregard power settings when using life? Or maybe add an auto-reminder after 15(?) minutes of usage that user is on a life system and that they should install (We appreciate your time but we would like to remind you that this system will expire in 45 minutes(or whatever you think is the right course of action). At the end of the day, and most often than not in my perspective, live systems are either used to *quickly* shows the goods (max 15 minutes) OR be used as salvaging/rescue systems and in which case the process can take several hours/DAYS to complete. In both scenario it would be fun if UM could acomodate and consider those perspectives. Cheers Again a typical "Sunday "bug"": When booting from a 20.04.1.ISO from USB on "regular" ATX specs, when using TTY7 and issuing a scp command (one long enough for something(am suspecting power settings to kick in?) to happen) then TTY7 goes full black and only the cursor displays/moves while nothing else is possible (no keyboard shortcut do anything) To explain myself differently: 1. boot 20.04.1 ISO -> select try ubuntu 2. plug in RJ45 cable, get on LAN 3. ALT+T + cd /somewhere/with/big/files (my source was 12 Gb on GigE LAN) 4. Come back (maybe 15-20 minutes after?) and try resuming your session on TTY7(because it was left that way after step #3): is fully blank yet the mouse curse moves and only shows 2 option: regular mouse pointer and text selecting mouse pointer. Accessing other TTYs (CTRL+ALT+F1 -> F6) works and displays properly. Conclusion: live session settings need to be rethought and possibly, even though it's very fun for a end user to have EVERYTHING in place to enjoy the look & feel of UM, including EVERYTHING has drawbacks. One of these cases seem that power settings/options are FAR from being universal and therefore c/would be better left alone in when using UM in that mode. Or maybe, in other to maximize this usage window(from "try"), power settings should be transformed in such a way that the try mode really works as a publicity stunt and (maybe) that after something like 15 minutes there is a pop-up auto-reminder about registering/licensing/supporting/wouldyouliketoknowmore/intereactiveassistant for the user to be bumped into? At the end of the day, and only based on my perspective, live systems are covered by 90% of those 2 use cases: 1. used to *quickly* shows the goods/integration/compatibility/etc and last from seconds to maybe max 15 minutes OR 2. used as salvaging/rescue alternative and in which case the process generally takes at least a couple of hours/days to complete. Thank you for reading this.
2021-02-28 17:30:46 Norbert bug task added ubiquity (Ubuntu)
2022-03-25 00:52:44 Martin Wimpress  bug task deleted ubuntu-mate