easy install option to save user disk area.

Bug #23050 reported by T Braun
Affects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone
partman-auto (Ubuntu)

Bug Description

One of the major reasons that I moved from Red Hat and Gentoo to Ubuntu is how
easy Ubuntu makes it to upgrade. When a new version of gnome or some other
package comes out it is very easy to pop in the new cd and do a new clean
install. My experience with upgrades is that within a release they are ok, but
it is more error prone going from say 4.10 to 5.04. I have a second disk in my
system that is mounted on /other. Everything that I want to keep goes into other
including /home, work. Installing means wiping out the first disk, doing a clean
install then remounting the second drive.


This should be a "standard" option that does not require a second drive. The
easy to use install should automatically set up a users non-volitale partition,
put home in it, store apt-get changes, or synaptic and so on. So if I've
apt-getted something like gcc it should be trivial to recreate my system with
the same additional packages.


I would not suggest this if I did not think that it would make Ubuntu even more
appealing. Microsoft upgrades are infrequent, painful things. it is a
competetive advantage to be able to constantly get the latest and greatest
system without pain and suffering.

Thanks for listening (or reading).

Revision history for this message
Colin Watson (cjwatson) wrote :

We strongly advise upgrading rather than reinstalling on each new release, and
we'd much rather fix any upgrade problems you're encountering.

Colin Watson (cjwatson)
Changed in debian-installer:
assignee: kamion → nobody
status: Unconfirmed → Confirmed
Revision history for this message
T Braun (tab) wrote :

"we'd much rather fix ..." I can understand that from a development point of view (and I program for a living). But from a desktop user perspective it is more deterministic to be able to reinstall or install a new release. One of the worst aspect of windows is that it gets into some unknown state and the cost of reinstall - bringing things back to a deterministic state- is excruciatingly painful. To frame it another way, the question is one of trust. I cannot trust my windows XP system to be in a clean bugfree, not-infected state. And if something goes wrong, I know people who go out and buy a new computer.

So why not make it an option to 1) set up a user data partition. 2) write all changes to the user data partition (the output of synaptics, apt-get). a script for user and group creation etc. 3) create a mechanism where I can do a new install, then point to my user partition and have all the synaptics pkgs reinstalled.

BTW, I just got an email about this today, so I'm responding now.

Revision history for this message
T Braun (tab) wrote : Re: [Bug 23050] Re: easy install option to save user disk area.

I added a comment.

Colin Watson wrote:
> ** Changed in: partman-auto (Ubuntu)
> Sourcepackagename: debian-installer => partman-auto
> Assignee: Colin Watson => (unassigned)
> Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed

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