network manager should read default profile from 3G USB Stick -- Huawei E169

so what is the exact behaviour? NetworkManager doesnt show this in the applet?

please attach the complete output of lspci and lshal to this bug.

oh. i think you want the 3g broadband wizard. For that install the latest applet and daemon from the network-manager PPA: http://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive

once done, restart everything (system restart to be sure) and remove any existing connection from the connection editor. next time you plug it in the wizard should pop up and hopefully will guide you through it - making configuration trivial.

please test.

ok, I added the PPA to my sources.list and updated my system.
Now the wizard appears and I could choose my country and my provider, which is "Austria" and "Drei".

But I didn't get a connection with the default settings (look at the attachment: EditiongDrei-Default.png). I also attached the syslog during this connection try (attachment: syslog_connect).
So I changed the number in the settings (attachment: EditiongDrei-Corrected.png) and now the connection worked (attachment: syslog_connect2)

I also attached the syslog during the plugin phase, so you can see more info about my usb stick (attachment: syslog_plugin)

by the way.... I changed the number from *99***1# to *99#

I attached my information on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:56:53PM -0000, Brot wrote:
> by the way.... I changed the number from *99***1# to *99#
>

Please also file a bug against the mobile-broadband-provider-info
package.

Thanks!

 - Alexander

Could also let us know in this bug which provider you are using. Thanks.

(btw, this bug is now open against the mobile-broadband-provider-info too so no need to open another bug)

Dial number is not coming from m-b-p-i. It's coming from network-manager-applet, but the fact that *99# works and *99***1# does not indicates that there's a bug in NetworkManager.

I mentioned it before! My provider is "Drei" (http://www.drei.at/) and the country of this provider is "Austria".

I don't know which package is responsible for this dial information. I tried my HSDPA USB Stick with the new Ubuntu 8.10, because I noticed that this is one of the most wanted features and in the austrian ubuntu forum it's the most asked question. At the moment the answer is to use umtsmon. For the user experience it would be great if it works out-of-the-box.

So I filled out this bug with my information and hope that this information is included in the final release so that there will be no problems for all the users out there

this bug appears to go into multiple directions. We will use this bug for its initial purpose. to track the wish to "read profiles from modems".

The comment I made above was directed to Alexander as he opened this bug also against m-b-p-i package. Sorry if you thought I directed it to you, Brot. It's truly great that you have taken the time to report this bug.

Firstly you said that the wizard already contains the information for "Drei" in Austria, right?

Secondly do you think that now when the assistant is in place the user experience is enough "out-of-the-box"? I don't think we should or can go any further. At least for now.

What comes to the original bug about getting the configuration directly from the device it should go on wishlist.

I don't know how umtsmon works internally, but there is no wizard and I could use my USB Stick out-of-the-box without configure anything. But the wizard is a good way in the right direction.

In which package are the dial numbers stored? Who can correct the wrong number (*99***1#) in the wizard and change it with the right number (*99#), which worked in my case?
As I heared from a friend there is another austrian provieder (One/Orange) with a wrong number. The right number there is also *99#
Where should I ask to correct this issues?

It is necessary that the wizard works correctly. If the user had to configure something after the wizard finished this would be a bad experience!

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:49:27AM -0000, Brot wrote:
> I don't know how umtsmon works internally, but there is no wizard and I
> could use my USB Stick out-of-the-box without configure anything. But
> the wizard is a good way in the right direction.
>
> In which package are the dial numbers stored? Who can correct the wrong number (*99***1#) in the wizard and change it with the right number (*99#), which worked in my case?
> As I heared from a friend there is another austrian provieder (One/Orange) with a wrong number. The right number there is also *99#
> Where should I ask to correct this issues?
>
> It is necessary that the wizard works correctly. If the user had to
> configure something after the wizard finished this would be a bad
> experience!
>

Please verify that the same issue exists when you uninstall libmbca0
package (e.g. without mobile broadband wizard).

Usually NM shjould create an auto connection even without the
wizard. would be curious to hear if its still a problem.

To test you might need to remove all 3g connection from the connection
editor and restart.

 - Alexander

I removed the package libmbca0 (see attachment "remove.log") and deleted the existing 3g connection in my connection editor.

Then I tried to plugin my usb device and connect to the internet. But it doesn't work (see attachment "syslog1_connect1"). The APN information is missing in the 3g connection settings.
So I filled this information in (drei.at), but it still doesn't work (see attachment "syslog1_connect2")

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:49:27AM -0000, Brot wrote:
> I don't know how umtsmon works internally, but there is no wizard and I
> could use my USB Stick out-of-the-box without configure anything. But
> the wizard is a good way in the right direction.
>
> In which package are the dial numbers stored? Who can correct the wrong number (*99***1#) in the wizard and change it with the right number (*99#), which worked in my case?

the wrong number should be fixed now in latest bzr branch. however
when not using the broadband wizard this shouldnt be an issue.

 - Alexander

I tried the new version and it works with one manually change.
After the first connection I get an ip-address and the dns-servers, but a ping doesn't work.
I have to "Allow application access to keyring" and then the connection works.

To get to the dialog in the attachment I have to do the following steps:
1) "Edit Connections..." opens the Network Connections Settings
2) Move to the "Mobile Broadband"-Tab
3) Edit "Auto GSM network connection"
Then the dialog appears and I can "Always Allow" the access

Is this because on my usb-stick the pin-code isn't disabled?

On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 04:47:50PM -0000, Brot wrote:
> I tried the new version and it works with one manually change.
> After the first connection I get an ip-address and the dns-servers, but a ping doesn't work.
> I have to "Allow application access to keyring" and then the connection works.
>
> To get to the dialog in the attachment I have to do the following steps:
> 1) "Edit Connections..." opens the Network Connections Settings
> 2) Move to the "Mobile Broadband"-Tab
> 3) Edit "Auto GSM network connection"
> Then the dialog appears and I can "Always Allow" the access
>
> Is this because on my usb-stick the pin-code isn't disabled?

No, NetworkManager needs to access your secret (e.g. pin-code), which
isnt stored by NetworkManager itself, but in the gnome-keyring (which
has extra security measures). Applications that want to get those keys
need to ask the user to do that.

 - Alexander

yes, that's right, but it's a problem for the user experience that the network connection only works if you open the "Auto GSM network connection" manually. This is a major problem for new users, because the connection doesn't work out of the box.

The question "Allow application access to keyring" should appear while the network connection is automatically configured the first time.

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:46:13AM -0000, Brot wrote:
> yes, that's right, but it's a problem for the user experience that the
> network connection only works if you open the "Auto GSM network
> connection" manually. This is a major problem for new users, because the
> connection doesn't work out of the box.
>
> The question "Allow application access to keyring" should appear while
> the network connection is automatically configured the first time.
>

So you say it doesnt happen automatically? What is your ESSID name? is
that a factory default?

 - Alexander

All the other settings are ok. If I open the Network Connections Settings for Mobile Broadband there is no apn or something. only the telephonnumber is listed.What do you mean with ESSID?

But I have to open this Mobile Broadband Setting to force the "Allow application access to keyring" message. If I click "Allows always" the connection works without any problems

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 12:13:19PM -0000, Brot wrote:
> All the other settings are ok. If I open the Network Connections
> Settings for Mobile Broadband there is no apn or something. only the
> telephonnumber is listed.What do you mean with ESSID?
>
> But I have to open this Mobile Broadband Setting to force the "Allow
> application access to keyring" message. If I click "Allows always" the
> connection works without any problems
>

OK, just to summarize:

 1. you are using a 3G connection
 2. that 3G connection doesnt work when you click on it in the drop
 down menu from the applet?
 3. that 3G connection works if started to edit it in the connection
 editor (which triggers the keyring dialog) and confirmed "always
 allow" there?

 - Alexander

yes your summarize is correct.
I attached a screenshot of the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" Application. There you can see that the pin code triggers the keyring dialog

~Bernd

I tried to disable the pin-code (this is easy with umtsmon) on the usb-stick and plug it into my notebook with ubuntu 8.10
This works without any problems. The dialog I mentioned before to store the pin-code in the keyring-manager doesn't pop up now.

But for the user experience it's important that the connection also works with enabled pin-code.

Today I installed the final 8.10 release and plugged my usb-stick into the usb-port.
UMTS connection works great except the known issue with the pin code and the keyring manager.
There is no working connection until I manually opened the connection editor for 3G and confirmed "always allow" in the triggered keyring dialog

I can confirm the problem. It appears that the modem has to be disconnected physically and then connected again for the USB-thingies to realise that something has been connected. After that, it connects to the Internet properly. See further my Open Question #72536. I am running Ubuntu 9.04.