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[Lenovo ThinkPad T530] "Disable while typing" doesn't work

Bug #1471804 reported by Sb on 2015-07-06

This bug affects 1 person

Affects		Status	Importance	Assigned to	Milestone
	linux (Ubuntu)	Confirmed	Medium	Unassigned

Bug Description

On my Lenovo Thinkpad T530 there is an option in the Ubuntu Unity system mouse/trackpad settings to "Disable while typing" which does not work. I confirm that there is absolutely no delay between typing and trackpad activation; in fact I can even move the trackpad while holding a key down.

A tried the following but it didn't work:
syndaemon -i 0.8 -d

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ApportVersion: 2.17.2-0ubuntu1.1
Architecture: amd64
AudioDevicesInUse:
USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0: sully 1514 F.... pulseaudio
CurrentDesktop: Unity
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.04
InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-03-29 (110 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" - Beta amd64 (20150326)
MachineType: LENOVO 2359CTO
Package: linux (not installed)
ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-22-generic root=UUID=2fb23a24-4346-48f5-b070-45e81f6ee5cb ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.19.0-22.22-generic 3.19.8-ckt1
RelatedPackageVersions:
linux-restricted-modules-3.19.0-22-generic N/A
linux-backports-modules-3.19.0-22-generic N/A
linux-firmware 1.143.1
Tags: vivid
UdevLog: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/log/udev'
Uname: Linux 3.19.0-22-generic x86_64
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo
_MarkForUpload: True
dmi.bios.date: 02/01/2013
dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.bios.version: G4ET92WW (2.52 )
dmi.board.asset.tag: Not Available
dmi.board.name: 2359CTO
dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.board.version: Win8 STD DPK TPG
dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
dmi.chassis.type: 10
dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvrG4ET92WW(2.52):bd02/01/2013:svnLENOVO:pn2359CTO:pvrThinkPadT530:rvnLENOVO:rn2359CTO:rvrWin8STDDPKTPG:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
dmi.product.name: 2359CTO
dmi.product.version: ThinkPad T530
dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO

See original description

Tags:

Sb (sb56637) on 2015-07-06

affects:	linux (Ubuntu) → linux-meta (Ubuntu)
affects:	linux-meta (Ubuntu) → linux (Ubuntu)

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Brad Figg (brad-figg) wrote on 2015-07-06: Missing required logs.

This bug is missing log files that will aid in diagnosing the problem. From a terminal window please run:

apport-collect 1471804

and then change the status of the bug to 'Confirmed'.

If, due to the nature of the issue you have encountered, you are unable to run this command, please add a comment stating that fact and change the bug status to 'Confirmed'.

This change has been made by an automated script, maintained by the Ubuntu Kernel Team.

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	New → Incomplete

penalvch (penalvch) on 2015-07-10

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
importance:	Undecided → Low

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-11: Re: "Disable while typing" doesn't work

What exactly is supposed to be disabled with the "Disable while typing" option? I just realized that my older Thinkpad T530 running Ubuntu 15.04 also allows the mouse to move with the trackpad while I type, I just never noticed it because the trackpad is better placed so that I don't bump it. On the T530 at least, it does not allow trackpad tap-clicking while typing, but it does allow trackpad physical button clicking while typing. (I can't test the T440s right now because I loaned it to somebody for a few months.)

summary:

- Thinkpad T440s trackpad "disable while typing" doesn't work
+ "Disable while typing" doesn't work

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: AlsaInfo.txt

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apport information

tags:	added: apport-collected vivid
description:	updated

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: CRDA.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: CurrentDmesg.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: IwConfig.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: JournalErrors.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: Lspci.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: Lsusb.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: ProcCpuinfo.txt

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Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	Incomplete → Confirmed

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: ProcEnviron.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: ProcInterrupts.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: ProcModules.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: PulseList.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: RfKill.txt

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-18: UdevDb.txt

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penalvch (penalvch) on 2015-07-26

tags:	added: bios-outdated-2.64
summary:	- "Disable while typing" doesn't work + [Lenovo ThinkPad T530] "Disable while typing" doesn't work
description:	updated
Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	Confirmed → Incomplete

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-27:

#18

Hello, I just updated my BIOS, but there is no change. It does not allow trackpad tap-clicking while typing, but it does allow trackpad physical button clicking while typing, as well as trackpad moving the mouse while typing.

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-27:

#19

sudo dmidecode -s bios-version && sudo dmidecode -s bios-release-date

G4ETA4WW (2.64 )
03/31/2015

Sb (sb56637) on 2015-07-27

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	Incomplete → Confirmed

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penalvch (penalvch) wrote on 2015-07-27:

#20

Sb, to confirm, has the WORKAROUND mentioned in your Bug Description been tested by you personally to work?

A reported workaround is to run:
syndaemon -i 0.8 -d

tags:	added: latest-bios-2.64 removed: bios-outdated-2.64
Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
importance:	Low → Medium
status:	Confirmed → Incomplete

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-27:

#21

> Sb, to confirm, has the WORKAROUND mentioned in your Bug Description been tested by you personally to work?
>
> syndaemon -i 0.8 -d

I just tried it. The first time I tried it it actually made my touchpad stop working completely after I typed something, and I had to reboot the system. Then I tried it again, and it didn't break my touchpad, but it also didn't solve this bug.

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penalvch (penalvch) wrote on 2015-07-28:

#22

Sb, could you please test the latest upstream kernel available from the very top line at the top of the page (the release names are irrelevant for testing, and please do not test the daily folder) following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds ? It will allow additional upstream developers to examine the issue.

If the test did not allow you to test to the issue (ex. you couldn't boot into the OS) please make a comment in your report about this, and continue to test the next most recent kernel version until you can test to the issue. Once you've tested the upstream kernel, please comment on which kernel version specifically you tested. If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following tags by clicking on the yellow circle with a black pencil icon, next to the word Tags, located at the bottom of the report description:
kernel-fixed-upstream
kernel-fixed-upstream-X.Y-rcZ

Where X, Y, and Z are numbers corresponding to the kernel version.

If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the following tags:
kernel-bug-exists-upstream
kernel-bug-exists-upstream-X.Y-rcZ

Please note, an error to install the kernel does not fit the criteria of kernel-bug-exists-upstream.

Once testing of the latest upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug's Status as Confirmed. Please let us know your results.

Thank you for your understanding.

description:

updated

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-07-29:

#23

Confirmed that the bug still exists in latest stable upstream kernel.

uname -a
Linux T530 4.1.3-040103-generic #201507220129 SMP Wed Jul 22 01:31:38 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

tags:	added: kernel-bug-exists-upstream kernel-bug-exists-upstream-4.1.3-040103
Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	Incomplete → Confirmed

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penalvch (penalvch) wrote on 2015-08-01:

#24

Sb, the latest mainline kernel is 4.2-rc4 (not 4.1.x).

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	Confirmed → Incomplete
tags:	removed: kernel-bug-exists-upstream-4.1.3-040103

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-08-03:

#25

uname -a
Linux T530 4.2.0-040200rc5-generic #201508030228 SMP Mon Aug 3 02:30:17 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

No change, bug still remains.

Changed in linux (Ubuntu):
status:	Incomplete → Confirmed

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Sb (sb56637) wrote on 2015-08-03:

#27

I should clarify that the "syndaemon -i 0.8 -d" workaround sort of works when typing to prevent touchpad mouse movement, but it does allow mouse movement while holding a key down, and it always allows physical trackpad button clicks when typing or holding a key down.

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