"firmware not responding" if on demand firmware of cx24116 (/lib/firmware/dvb-fe-cx24116.fw) is present during boot

"firmware not responding" if on demand firmware of cx24116 (/lib/firmware/dvb-fe-cx24116.fw) is present during boot

TV-card: Hauppauge WinTV HVR-4000-HD

If /lib/firmware/dvb-fe-cx24116.fw is not present during boot of the system, and I later add it to the system after boot, then the on demand download works fine if needed during TV playback.
I use kaffeine as player. After download of firmware it shows terrestrial and satellite channels correctly. Here there is a dmesg part of correct/working downloading, which happens always when I start kaffeine TV mode:

[83222.087352] cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload (dvb-fe-cx24116.fw)...
[83222.089351] cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Waiting for firmware upload(2)...
[83228.067180] cx24116_load_firmware: FW version 1.26.90.0
[83228.067193] cx24116_firmware_ondemand: Firmware upload complete

But! if /lib/firmware/dvb-fe-cx24116.fw is present during boot, the ondemand downloading does not work.
I think the module thinks the firmware is already on the card, and tries to communicate with it, but it does not succeed:

[ 714.140141] cx24116_cmd_execute() Firmware not responding
[ 716.652071] cx24116_cmd_execute() Firmware not responding
[ 764.888125] cx24116_cmd_execute() Firmware not responding

It even does not try to download the firmware!!!
So if the fw is present during boot, i can not use the tv card...

My suggestion would be to force a download if firmware is not responding...

My workaround for now is to rename the /lib/firmware/dvb-fe-cx24116.fw to something else, and then switch off the PC.
After switching on the PC I rename the fw back, and download works.
Any other ideas?

I also have problems with my Logitec QuickCam E3500, and with a NEC USB3.0 controller.
The camera does not show up as audio input on the volume control app ( I think thats the
3:3:1: cannot set freq 16000 to ep 0x86
problem shown in dmesg,
and I am unable to use my Iomega Prestige 1 TB USB3.0 HDD because it crashes the USB modules if plugged in on the USB3.0 port. On USB 2.0 ports it works fine.
Maybe above module loading problem is related with whole configuration and the uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller ...

Additional Info:

$ lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 11.10
Release: 11.10

$ apt-cache policy linux-firmware-nonfree
linux-firmware-nonfree:
  Telepítve: (nincs)
  Jelölt: 1.11
  Verziótáblázat:
     1.11 0
        500 http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/multiverse amd64 Packages

$ uname -a
Linux benqbox 3.0.0-15-generic #24-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 12 15:23:55 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
nls_utf8 12557 1
isofs 40253 1
rfcomm 47946 0
bnep 18436 2
bluetooth 166112 10 rfcomm,bnep
parport_pc 36962 0
ppdev 17113 0
binfmt_misc 17540 1
vesafb 13809 1
cx22702 13490 1
isl6421 12677 1
cx24116 27522 1
cx88_dvb 34349 0
cx88_vp3054_i2c 12960 1 cx88_dvb
videobuf_dvb 14147 1 cx88_dvb
dvb_core 110616 2 cx88_dvb,videobuf_dvb
wm8775 13103 1
rc_hauppauge 12532 0
tuner_simple 18551 2
tuner_types 24318 1 tuner_simple
tda9887 14154 1
tda8290 22616 0
ir_lirc_codec 12898 0
lirc_dev 19204 1 ir_lirc_codec
tuner 27428 2
ir_sony_decoder 12549 0
ir_jvc_decoder 12546 0
joydev 17693 0
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 32040 4
cx88_alsa 18535 1
cx8802 19088 1 cx88_dvb
cx8800 38573 0
ir_rc6_decoder 12546 0
cx88xx 89224 4 cx88_dvb,cx88_alsa,cx8802,cx8800
usbhid 47198 0
hid 95463 1 usbhid
nvidia 11919144 40
ir_rc5_decoder 12546 0
ir_nec_decoder 12546 0
rc_core 26963 9 rc_hauppauge,ir_lirc_codec,ir_sony_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,ir_rc6_decoder,cx88xx,ir_rc5_decoder,ir_nec_decoder
i2c_algo_bit 13423 2 cx88_vp3054_i2c,cx88xx
tveeprom 21249 1 cx88xx
v4l2_common 16454 4 wm8775,tuner,cx8800,cx88xx
snd_usb_audio 118122 0
videobuf_dma_sg 19354 5 cx88_dvb,cx88_alsa,cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx
btcx_risc 13640 4 cx88_alsa,cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx
uvcvideo 72711 0
videodev 92992 6 wm8775,tuner,cx8800,cx88xx,v4l2_common,uvcvideo
v4l2_compat_ioctl32 17083 1 videodev
snd_usbmidi_lib 25371 1 snd_usb_audio
snd_hda_codec_realtek 330769 1
snd_seq_midi 13324 0
snd_rawmidi 30547 2 snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_midi
snd_hda_intel 33390 3
snd_hda_codec 104931 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13668 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq_midi_event 14899 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_pcm 96714 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,cx88_alsa,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq 61896 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 29991 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 14540 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 68266 22 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,cx88_alsa,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 12680 1 snd
sp5100_tco 13791 0
i2c_piix4 13301 0
snd_page_alloc 18529 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
edac_core 53746 0
psmouse 73882 0
serio_raw 13166 0
edac_mce_amd 23709 0
videobuf_core 26390 5 videobuf_dvb,cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx,videobuf_dma_sg
k10temp 13166 0
wmi 19256 0
lp 17799 0
parport 46562 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
reiserfs 248828 2
usb_storage 57901 2
uas 18027 0
xhci_hcd 82820 0
ahci 26002 2
libahci 26861 1 ahci
pata_atiixp 13164 1
r8169 52788 0

$ lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
 Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
 Capabilities: <access denied>

00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
 I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
 Memory behind bridge: f8000000-f9dfffff
 Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000d6000000-00000000dfffffff
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: pcieport
 Kernel modules: shpchp

00:03.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
 Memory behind bridge: f9e00000-f9efffff
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: pcieport
 Kernel modules: shpchp

00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
 I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff
 Memory behind bridge: f9f00000-f9ffffff
 Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f6f00000-00000000f6ffffff
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: pcieport
 Kernel modules: shpchp

00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=05, subordinate=05, sec-latency=0
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: pcieport
 Kernel modules: shpchp

00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode] (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 50
 I/O ports at c000 [size=8]
 I/O ports at b000 [size=4]
 I/O ports at a000 [size=8]
 I/O ports at 9000 [size=4]
 I/O ports at 8000 [size=16]
 Memory at f7fffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: ahci
 Kernel modules: ahci

00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
 Memory at f7ffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
 Memory at f7ffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 17
 Memory at f7fff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18
 Memory at f7ffc000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18
 Memory at f7ffb000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
 Memory at f7fff400 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd

00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3c)
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: 66MHz, medium devsel
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: piix4_smbus
 Kernel modules: sp5100_tco, i2c-piix4

00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
 I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
 I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
 I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
 I/O ports at ff00 [size=16]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: pata_atiixp
 Kernel modules: pata_atiixp

00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 16
 Memory at f7ff4000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0

00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=64
 Memory behind bridge: fa000000-fdffffff

00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18
 Memory at f7ffa000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd

00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
 Flags: fast devsel
 Capabilities: <access denied>

00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map
 Flags: fast devsel

00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
 Flags: fast devsel
 Kernel modules: amd64_edac_mod

00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
 Flags: fast devsel
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: k10temp
 Kernel modules: k10temp

00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control
 Flags: fast devsel

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
 Subsystem: eVga.com. Corp. Device 1430
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
 Memory at f8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
 Memory at d6000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
 I/O ports at d800 [size=128]
 [virtual] Expansion ROM at f9d80000 [disabled] [size=512K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: nvidia
 Kernel modules: nvidia_current, nvidia_current_updates, nouveau, nvidiafb

01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation GF108 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
 Subsystem: eVga.com. Corp. Device 1430
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
 Memory at f9d7c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

02:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
 Memory at f9efe000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
 Kernel modules: xhci-hcd

03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
 Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7576
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44
 I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
 Memory at f6fff000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
 Memory at f6ff8000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Expansion ROM at f9fe0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: r8169
 Kernel modules: r8169

04:05.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
 Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV HVR-4000-HD
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 20
 Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: cx8800
 Kernel modules: cx8800

04:05.1 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [Audio Port] (rev 05)
 Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. Device 6902
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 20
 Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: cx88_audio
 Kernel modules: cx88-alsa

04:05.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [MPEG Port] (rev 05)
 Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV HVR-4000-HD
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 20
 Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Capabilities: <access denied>
 Kernel driver in use: cx88-mpeg driver manager
 Kernel modules: cx8802

04:05.4 Multimedia controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder [IR Port] (rev 05)
 Subsystem: Hauppauge computer works Inc. WinTV HVR-4000-HD
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
 Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
 Capabilities: <access denied>

$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 009 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 059b:0070 Iomega Corp.
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:09a4 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam E 3500
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c52e Logitech, Inc.
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ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu4
Architecture: amd64
Dependencies:

DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release amd64 (20110427.1)
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
Package: linux-firmware-nonfree 1.11
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-15.24-generic 3.0.13
Tags: oneiric
Uname: Linux 3.0.0-15-generic x86_64
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to oneiric on 2011-12-14 (111 days ago)
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