2008-11-02 00:00:23 |
Greg Coit |
bug |
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added bug |
2008-11-02 15:54:43 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox: bugtargetdisplayname |
firefox (Ubuntu) |
firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) |
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2008-11-02 15:54:43 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox: bugtargetname |
firefox (Ubuntu) |
firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) |
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2008-11-02 15:54:43 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox: statusexplanation |
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firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it. Its not a hard depend and kde users probably dont want to install it. THis is not a bug. |
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2008-11-02 15:54:43 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox: title |
Bug #292403 in firefox (Ubuntu): "firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" |
Bug #292403 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu): "firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" |
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2008-11-02 15:54:53 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: status |
New |
Invalid |
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2008-11-02 15:54:53 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: statusexplanation |
firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it. Its not a hard depend and kde users probably dont want to install it. THis is not a bug. |
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2008-11-02 18:01:12 |
Greg Coit |
firefox-3.0: status |
Invalid |
New |
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2008-11-02 18:01:12 |
Greg Coit |
firefox-3.0: statusexplanation |
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It's a bug when the most popular web browser requires a whole different window manager! |
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2008-11-02 22:17:11 |
Alexander Sack |
title |
firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps |
MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps |
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2008-11-02 22:17:51 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: status |
New |
Incomplete |
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2008-11-02 22:17:51 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: statusexplanation |
It's a bug when the most popular web browser requires a whole different window manager! |
still incomplete. please provide me with the asked information (even though this is a MASTER now) |
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2008-11-03 00:14:06 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: status |
Incomplete |
Triaged |
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2008-11-03 00:14:06 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: title |
Bug #292403 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" |
Bug #292403 in adept (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" |
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2008-11-03 00:14:06 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: importance |
Undecided |
Medium |
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2008-11-03 00:14:06 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: bugtargetname |
firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) |
adept (Ubuntu) |
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2008-11-03 00:14:06 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: statusexplanation |
still incomplete. please provide me with the asked information (even though this is a MASTER now) |
adept should fix its install data then. |
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2008-11-03 00:14:06 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: bugtargetdisplayname |
firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) |
adept (Ubuntu) |
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2008-11-03 13:13:49 |
Harald Sitter |
adept: bugtargetdisplayname |
adept (Ubuntu) |
firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) |
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2008-11-03 13:13:49 |
Harald Sitter |
adept: bugtargetname |
adept (Ubuntu) |
firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) |
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2008-11-03 13:13:49 |
Harald Sitter |
adept: statusexplanation |
adept should fix its install data then. |
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html
Recommends
This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations.
Suggests
This is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is perfectly reasonable.
I am not sure how I should justify that I bounce this bug back to firefox, so I'll just leave you 2 possible reasons:
a) Kubuntu is _NOT_ an unusual installation - that would be the 'political' reason
b) as Alexander said himself "firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it" which is exactly the usecase described for the Suggests relation (same applies for the ubufox recommends) - that would be the 'firefox-3.0-doesnt-follow-debian-policy' reason |
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2008-11-03 13:13:49 |
Harald Sitter |
adept: title |
Bug #292403 in adept (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" |
Bug #292403 in firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu): "MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps" |
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2008-11-03 14:53:43 |
Alexander Sack |
bug |
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assigned to adept (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-03 14:55:45 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: status |
Triaged |
Won't Fix |
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2008-11-03 14:55:45 |
Alexander Sack |
firefox-3.0: statusexplanation |
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html
Recommends
This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations.
Suggests
This is used to declare that one package may be more useful with one or more others. Using this field tells the packaging system and the user that the listed packages are related to this one and can perhaps enhance its usefulness, but that installing this one without them is perfectly reasonable.
I am not sure how I should justify that I bounce this bug back to firefox, so I'll just leave you 2 possible reasons:
a) Kubuntu is _NOT_ an unusual installation - that would be the 'political' reason
b) as Alexander said himself "firefox recommends -gnome-support ... as it simply best works with it" which is exactly the usecase described for the Suggests relation (same applies for the ubufox recommends) - that would be the 'firefox-3.0-doesnt-follow-debian-policy' reason |
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2008-11-03 17:52:27 |
Harald Sitter |
bug |
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assigned to apt (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-03 17:52:51 |
Harald Sitter |
bug |
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assigned to aptitude (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-03 17:53:26 |
Harald Sitter |
bug |
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assigned to synaptic (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-03 17:53:56 |
Harald Sitter |
bug |
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assigned to packagekit (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-03 17:54:28 |
Harald Sitter |
bug |
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assigned to smart (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-03 17:55:42 |
Harald Sitter |
bug |
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assigned to update-manager (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-04 09:37:10 |
Alexander Sack |
apt: status |
New |
Invalid |
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2008-11-04 09:37:10 |
Alexander Sack |
apt: statusexplanation |
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all package tools that can --no-install-recommends are ok. |
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2008-11-04 09:37:26 |
Alexander Sack |
aptitude: status |
New |
Invalid |
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2008-11-04 09:37:26 |
Alexander Sack |
aptitude: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 09:38:01 |
Alexander Sack |
packagekit: status |
New |
Invalid |
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2008-11-04 09:38:01 |
Alexander Sack |
packagekit: statusexplanation |
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i assume packagekit can --no-install-recommends. |
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2008-11-04 09:38:18 |
Alexander Sack |
synaptic: status |
New |
Invalid |
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2008-11-04 09:38:18 |
Alexander Sack |
synaptic: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 09:39:46 |
Alexander Sack |
smart: status |
New |
Invalid |
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2008-11-04 09:39:46 |
Alexander Sack |
smart: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 10:02:21 |
Alexander Sack |
adept: status |
New |
Confirmed |
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2008-11-04 10:02:21 |
Alexander Sack |
adept: importance |
Undecided |
Wishlist |
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2008-11-04 10:02:21 |
Alexander Sack |
adept: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 10:10:31 |
Alexander Sack |
title |
MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps |
MASTER support to select apps without recommends in app-install-data |
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2008-11-04 10:12:27 |
Alexander Sack |
update-manager: status |
New |
Confirmed |
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2008-11-04 10:12:27 |
Alexander Sack |
update-manager: importance |
Undecided |
Wishlist |
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2008-11-04 10:12:27 |
Alexander Sack |
update-manager: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 10:16:38 |
Alexander Sack |
description |
Binary package hint: firefox
Installing Firefox 3.03 on a new Kubuntu 8.10 install using adept requires installing some gnome files (not just gtk files). It appears that firefox has been compiled with a gnome use flag. |
Now that recommends get installed by default it would be nice to add the ability to select packages to be installed without recommends in high-level- application managers and the meta data package (apt-install-data).
This would allow distributions to provide easy installation of stripped down applications ... as in the case of gnome-support for firefox.
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Installing Firefox 3.03 on a new Kubuntu 8.10 install using adept requires installing some gnome files (not just gtk files). It appears that firefox has been compiled with a gnome use flag. |
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2008-11-04 10:17:10 |
Alexander Sack |
bug |
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assigned to app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-04 10:17:26 |
Alexander Sack |
app-install-data-ubuntu: status |
New |
Confirmed |
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2008-11-04 10:17:26 |
Alexander Sack |
app-install-data-ubuntu: importance |
Undecided |
Wishlist |
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2008-11-04 10:17:26 |
Alexander Sack |
app-install-data-ubuntu: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 10:17:48 |
Alexander Sack |
bug |
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assigned to gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) |
2008-11-04 10:18:04 |
Alexander Sack |
gnome-app-install: status |
New |
Confirmed |
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2008-11-04 10:18:04 |
Alexander Sack |
gnome-app-install: statusexplanation |
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2008-11-04 10:18:17 |
Alexander Sack |
gnome-app-install: importance |
Undecided |
Wishlist |
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2008-11-04 10:18:40 |
Alexander Sack |
update-manager: status |
Confirmed |
Triaged |
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2008-11-04 10:18:53 |
Alexander Sack |
gnome-app-install: status |
Confirmed |
Triaged |
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2008-11-04 10:19:10 |
Alexander Sack |
app-install-data-ubuntu: status |
Confirmed |
Triaged |
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2008-11-04 10:19:25 |
Alexander Sack |
adept: status |
Confirmed |
Triaged |
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2009-11-13 04:31:20 |
Greg Coit |
removed subscriber Greg Coit |
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2012-09-03 14:46:09 |
Jonathan Thomas |
adept (Ubuntu): status |
Triaged |
Won't Fix |
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2013-05-10 14:12:40 |
Phillip Susi |
gnome-app-install (Ubuntu): status |
Triaged |
Invalid |
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