Submit a group page to a group

Bug #1363742 reported by Kristina Hoeppner
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Bug Description

Wishlist item reported by Stephen Bright from the University of Waikato:

Students work in groups of 3 and want to be able to submit pages / collections to a group for assessment without having to copy the page into one of the users' accounts and then submitting that.

I think there are two things to consider:

1. Submit a group page / collection to the group in which it was created, e.g. when the instructor is tutor / admin in each student group.
2. Submit a group page / collection to a different group. That way, student groups would have their own space and their work could not be changed by other students who are in the same group.

Any other things to consider?

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Kristina Hoeppner (kris-hoeppner) wrote :

from the duplicate wishlist item report bug #1193766:

When students work together in project groups and create a page / collection collaboratively, they may have to submit that page / collection for assessment to a group - either the same or another group where the students are members of.

Thus, it would be good if group pages could also be submitted for assessment.

(idea from http://myportfolio.school.nz/interaction/forum/topic.php?id=7355 - not accessible publicly; just for Kristina's reference)

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Emilie Lenel (emilie-lenel-g) wrote :

Hi
i am definitely interested by this wishlist item, we'd like our students to be able to submit group pages for assessment.
Emilie

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Aaron Wells (u-aaronw) wrote :

Hm, the tricky thing about this is deciding who gets permission to submit the page. Because submitting locks the page from editing, so there are some security implications to it. If multiple study-groups of students are using the same Mahara group to work on their collaborative pages, a student from one study-group could submit the page of a student from another study-group to troll them.

Or for that matter, a user might join an existing group that is for an entirely unrelated purpose, and then submit one of its pages.

So I guess it would make the most sense if only a group's admin(s) can submit pages. Then a user study-group could create their own Mahara group, where they would be the group admin, and submit from that. But I imagine this would probably lead to a lot of user confusion about, "Why can't I submit my page?"

Perhaps what would be needed instead, is the ability to make a group be a "member" of another group? And then if group A allows submissions, group B must be a member of group A in order for group pages from B to be submitted to A. Hm, but then that leads all the other nasty complications of inherited group membership, including potentially making page permissions even more complicated...

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Kristina Hoeppner (kris-hoeppner) wrote :

If there are several study groups, I would keep those separate and not have all students in one group.

Deciding who can submit: I would not worry too much about that at the moment and see if it caused a problem that a student would submit a piece of work and another student in the same group wouldn't have just yet. Students could communicate about that. In Moodle, I'm not aware of a setting that would require all group members to give their OK for submitting an assignment for example. Anything more complicated could be added if needed at a later stage.

I would give a different info text though right before the submission so that it says specifically that it's a group page / collection that is being submitted and that the other group members won't be able to edit it either.

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Aaron Wells (u-aaronw) wrote :

Oh, and here's an idea. In addition to displaying the name of the page's group as the "author", we'd also display the name of the individual user who actually clicked the "submit" button.

That would help cut down on abusability, by making it impossible to anonymously submit someone else's page just to mess with them.

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Wangchen (tshering-wangchen) wrote :

Hi,

I like the idea of tracking who submitted the group page/ collection; accountability.

We are looking forward to this Whishlist item.

Kind regards
Wangchen

University of Canberra.

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