[Upstream] bug in displaying scalable square brackets in math object
Affects | Status | Importance | Assigned to | Milestone | |
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LibreOffice |
Confirmed
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Medium
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OpenOffice |
Confirmed
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Low
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libreoffice (Ubuntu) |
Confirmed
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Medium
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openoffice.org (Ubuntu) |
Won't Fix
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Undecided
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Unassigned |
Bug Description
1) lsb_release -rd
Description: Ubuntu 11.04
Release: 11.04
2) apt-cache policy libreoffice-writer
libreoffice-writer:
Installed: 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2
Candidate: 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2
Version table:
*** 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2 0
100 /var/lib/
1:
500 http://
1:
500 http://
3) When is expected to happen in LibreOffice Writer via a terminal:
cd ~/Desktop && wget https:/
is the scalable square brackets look as they would in Word. Latex also shows the desired bracket shape as per https:/
4) What happens instead is the top and bottom part of the bracket look like a square instead of a line pointing inwards towards the equation.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rgb-mldc (rgb-mldc) wrote : | #36 |
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Rgbl (rgbl) wrote : | #6 |
Created attachment 41094
Example of bad behavior for scalable brackets
As shown on attached document (which includes a Math object and a screenshot with the problem highlighted), if you use scalable brackets for a big object like a matrix, they became more and more "bold", something should not happen.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #37 |
[Reproducible] with "brackets.odt" and "LibreOffice 3.3.0 RC1 - WIN XP German UI [OOO330m17 (build 3.3.0.1"
Also visible with sample document and OOo 3.1.1, OOo 3.4.-dev
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #7 |
[Reproducible] with "brackets.odt" and "LibreOffice 3.3.0 RC1 - WIN XP German UI [OOO330m17 (build 3.3.0.1"
Also visible with sample document and OOo 3.1.1, OOo 3.4.-dev
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, JBF (jbf-faure) wrote : | #38 |
Old known bug in OOo : http://
Best regards. JBF
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Jbf-faure-9 (jbf-faure-9) wrote : | #8 |
Old known bug in OOo : http://
Best regards. JBF
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #39 |
A workaround is to make the scalable brackets as usual, then make two more brackets (left and right) by themselves--two additional math objects, then use the Position and Size window to scale these up to the proper size, then position them on top of the bad brackets and use the align tool to make sure the good brackets and the math formula are properly aligned vertically.
But it seems like LibreOffice should be smart enough to properly scale the brackets by itself. How does LaTeX do things like that? Would its techniques in any way be transferable to LibreOffice?
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #9 |
A workaround is to make the scalable brackets as usual, then make two more brackets (left and right) by themselves--two additional math objects, then use the Position and Size window to scale these up to the proper size, then position them on top of the bad brackets and use the align tool to make sure the good brackets and the math formula are properly aligned vertically.
But it seems like LibreOffice should be smart enough to properly scale the brackets by itself. How does LaTeX do things like that? Would its techniques in any way be transferable to LibreOffice?
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #40 |
Turns out the workaround I proposed is only possible in Impress. In Writer, it is impossible to have two math objects overlap.
So, can anyone do something about this? Kinda makes LibreOffice a non-starter when it comes to putting math formulas in documents.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #10 |
Turns out the workaround I proposed is only possible in Impress. In Writer, it is impossible to have two math objects overlap.
So, can anyone do something about this? Kinda makes LibreOffice a non-starter when it comes to putting math formulas in documents.
rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #1 |
- Shows the bad behavior of scalable brackets Edit (18.2 KiB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
penalvch (penalvch) wrote : | #2 |
rfvuhbtg, thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. The issue you are reporting is an upstream one and it would be nice if somebody having it could send the bug to the developers of the software by following the instructions at http://
description: | updated |
tags: | added: lo33 |
Changed in libreoffice (Ubuntu): | |
importance: | Undecided → Medium |
status: | New → Triaged |
rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #3 |
There's already a bug report about this, I think, here:
https:/
which also points back to an older bug from OpenOffice.org here:
http://
But it doesn't look like there's been any activity on it for long time. I only recently stumbled on this bug while putting together a document/
summary: |
- bug in displaying scalable brackets in math object + [Upstream] bug in displaying scalable square brackets in math object |
Changed in openoffice: | |
importance: | Unknown → Low |
status: | Unknown → Confirmed |
rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #4 |
- shows proper rendering of brackets from latex document Edit (56.2 KiB, application/pdf)
I guess I should also add, here is an example of a large math formula with scalable brackets rendered in LaTeX, to give an example of how it should look.
Changed in df-libreoffice: | |
importance: | Unknown → Medium |
status: | Unknown → Confirmed |
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #41 |
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #11 |
Changed in openoffice.org (Ubuntu): | |
status: | New → Won't Fix |
Björn Michaelsen (bjoern-michaelsen) wrote : migrating packaging from OpenOffice.org to Libreoffice | #5 |
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In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #42 |
*** Bug 40998 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #12 |
*** Bug 40998 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #43 |
Hi there - I need this bug fixed or I'll have export my thesis to word. Is there any system at libreoffice whereby I can put a bounty on this bug (say $100) and have someone else (like an admin or something) determine when its fixed, who fixed it and award the money accordingly?
Thanks,
peter.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #13 |
Hi there - I need this bug fixed or I'll have export my thesis to word. Is there any system at libreoffice whereby I can put a bounty on this bug (say $100) and have someone else (like an admin or something) determine when its fixed, who fixed it and award the money accordingly?
Thanks,
peter.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #44 |
I'd just like to add that the problem shows up for parentheses and braces as well as brackets.
I hope the developers get this bug fixed soon. I've had to switch away from LibreOffice until this is fixed.
This bug truly makes LibreOffice a non-starter for any kind of technical/
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, rfvuhbtg (rfvuhbtg) wrote : | #14 |
I'd just like to add that the problem shows up for parentheses and braces as well as brackets.
I hope the developers get this bug fixed soon. I've had to switch away from LibreOffice until this is fixed.
This bug truly makes LibreOffice a non-starter for any kind of technical/
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #45 |
Sorry, I have to retract the offer above as I am now slowly converting my thesis to word. I agree with rfvuhbtg above - the most likely professional users of libreoffice are people who are likely to use this functionality. Because of this bug, we can't use libreoffice to produce professional looking work.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, JBF (jbf-faure) wrote : | #46 |
*** Bug 42812 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, JBF (jbf-faure) wrote : | #47 |
@Peter: please have a look at TexMathts extension (http://
Best regards. JBF
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #48 |
@Jean-Baptiste Faure - thanks very much for this. I'll have to redo my diagrams, but at least I get to keep using libreoffice :)
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #15 |
Sorry, I have to retract the offer above as I am now slowly converting my thesis to word. I agree with rfvuhbtg above - the most likely professional users of libreoffice are people who are likely to use this functionality. Because of this bug, we can't use libreoffice to produce professional looking work.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Jbf-faure-9 (jbf-faure-9) wrote : | #16 |
*** Bug 42812 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Jbf-faure-9 (jbf-faure-9) wrote : | #17 |
@Peter: please have a look at TexMathts extension (http://
Best regards. JBF
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #18 |
@Jean-Baptiste Faure - thanks very much for this. I'll have to redo my diagrams, but at least I get to keep using libreoffice :)
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Johnsonf (johnsonf) wrote : | #49 |
Created attachment 53928
updated example of bad bracket behaviour
I made a new example document that shows more problems with the brackets.
Right now there are two kinds of brackets. Normal and Scalable.
Normal Brackets just draw the Unicode character normally. It scales in the same way all the other characters scale and lines up just like a normal characer.
Scalable Brackets do something else. I am not sure what. They scale linearly to be the same hight as the object they inclose. They are not just normal brackets that get stretched up and down. they look different from the normal brackets even when the object they enclose is one character tall.
!!!!!!!
Fixing this _The Right Way_ is NOT an easy hack
!!!!!!!
It would require actual mutations of the vector (bezier) curves inside the bracket characters that are drawn. Or a custom implementation of the bracket characters.
If this was done properly there would be only one kind of bracket, which would make them easier to use and fit the sort of "just works" standard that we all aspire to have in our software.
There isn't a solution that looks good and ONLY involves scaling.
Assuming that the bracket characters don't have a lot of unnessecary bezier curve endpoints along thier curves, the solution is to:
1. design a system so that arbitrary offsets can be applied to the positions of arbitrary curve endpoints. A demo of this system would be a character that fits inline and looks just like other characters, but can have a sine wave distortion applied to the positions of its curve endpoints so that it wobbles like a skrillex song.
2. design a new scaling system based on the previous step. The character is placed in front of the object to inclose, and looks just like how the Normal brackets look now. Then, the curve endpoints that lie in the top third of the character are moved until thier top edge lines up with the top edge of the object to be enclosed, and the bottom third moved down in a similar fasion.
It is possible that this would produce bad curves on something like the curly brace, but in theory the curve tangents could be adjusted algorithmically based on the distance that the endpoints were moved, to compensate.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Johnsonf (johnsonf) wrote : | #50 |
Created attachment 53929
Image showing how bracket characters need to be mutated
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Johnsonf (johnsonf) wrote : | #19 |
Created attachment 53928
updated example of bad bracket behaviour
I made a new example document that shows more problems with the brackets.
Right now there are two kinds of brackets. Normal and Scalable.
Normal Brackets just draw the Unicode character normally. It scales in the same way all the other characters scale and lines up just like a normal characer.
Scalable Brackets do something else. I am not sure what. They scale linearly to be the same hight as the object they inclose. They are not just normal brackets that get stretched up and down. they look different from the normal brackets even when the object they enclose is one character tall.
!!!!!!!
Fixing this _The Right Way_ is NOT an easy hack
!!!!!!!
It would require actual mutations of the vector (bezier) curves inside the bracket characters that are drawn. Or a custom implementation of the bracket characters.
If this was done properly there would be only one kind of bracket, which would make them easier to use and fit the sort of "just works" standard that we all aspire to have in our software.
There isn't a solution that looks good and ONLY involves scaling.
Assuming that the bracket characters don't have a lot of unnessecary bezier curve endpoints along thier curves, the solution is to:
1. design a system so that arbitrary offsets can be applied to the positions of arbitrary curve endpoints. A demo of this system would be a character that fits inline and looks just like other characters, but can have a sine wave distortion applied to the positions of its curve endpoints so that it wobbles like a skrillex song.
2. design a new scaling system based on the previous step. The character is placed in front of the object to inclose, and looks just like how the Normal brackets look now. Then, the curve endpoints that lie in the top third of the character are moved until thier top edge lines up with the top edge of the object to be enclosed, and the bottom third moved down in a similar fasion.
It is possible that this would produce bad curves on something like the curly brace, but in theory the curve tangents could be adjusted algorithmically based on the distance that the endpoints were moved, to compensate.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Johnsonf (johnsonf) wrote : | #20 |
Created attachment 53929
Image showing how bracket characters need to be mutated
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Björn Michaelsen (bjoern-michaelsen) wrote : | #51 |
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In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rgb-mldc (rgb-mldc) wrote : | #52 |
The problem is present on 3.5 beta2.
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Changed in df-libreoffice: | |
status: | Confirmed → Incomplete |
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Rgbl (rgbl) wrote : | #22 |
The problem is present on 3.5 beta2.
Changed in df-libreoffice: | |
status: | Incomplete → Confirmed |
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #53 |
@András:
Please feel free to reassign (or reset Assignee to default) if it’s not your area or if provided information is not sufficient. Please set Status to ASSIGNED if you accept this Bug.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Libreoffice-z (libreoffice-z) wrote : | #23 |
@András:
Please feel free to reassign (or reset Assignee to default) if it’s not your area or if provided information is not sufficient. Please set Status to ASSIGNED if you accept this Bug.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Fred-wang (fred-wang) wrote : | #24 |
The right way to fix this bug is to use several glyphs to draw the brace e.g. one glyph for the top, one for the middle and one for the bottom. The rest of the brace are two vertical lines that can easily be extended to arbitrary size (e.g. by repeating a glyph for vertical bar or drawing a line). In general, you need to use some specific mathematical fonts that contain the glyphs for the most important stretchy operators e.g. the STIX fonts.
There have been discussion on the LibreOffice mailing list about using STIX fonts as well as supporting the Open Type Math table (here, at least the stretchy variants/
CC'ing Khaled Hosny.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Fred-wang (fred-wang) wrote : | #54 |
The right way to fix this bug is to use several glyphs to draw the brace e.g. one glyph for the top, one for the middle and one for the bottom. The rest of the brace are two vertical lines that can easily be extended to arbitrary size (e.g. by repeating a glyph for vertical bar or drawing a line). In general, you need to use some specific mathematical fonts that contain the glyphs for the most important stretchy operators e.g. the STIX fonts.
There have been discussion on the LibreOffice mailing list about using STIX fonts as well as supporting the Open Type Math table (here, at least the stretchy variants/
CC'ing Khaled Hosny.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Khaled Hosny (khaledhosny) wrote : | #25 |
I had a cursory look at Math while ago, and my impression is that it is a hopeless case, it has to be rewritten from scratch (at least the math renderer) if any sane math rendering is to be achieved.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Khaled Hosny (khaledhosny) wrote : | #55 |
I had a cursory look at Math while ago, and my impression is that it is a hopeless case, it has to be rewritten from scratch (at least the math renderer) if any sane math rendering is to be achieved.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #26 |
A year or two ago I asked about this bug because I needed it fixed for my thesis. Someone suggested using the TexMaths Equations editor instead (it embeds LaTeX into LibreOffice). This worked perfectly and saved me from having to convert my work to word. Is there any way we could just use this instead? It properly scales brackets with large objects. I'd recommend it, because I think this bug is about a decade old.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #56 |
A year or two ago I asked about this bug because I needed it fixed for my thesis. Someone suggested using the TexMaths Equations editor instead (it embeds LaTeX into LibreOffice). This worked perfectly and saved me from having to convert my work to word. Is there any way we could just use this instead? It properly scales brackets with large objects. I'd recommend it, because I think this bug is about a decade old.
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Fred-wang (fred-wang) wrote : | #27 |
Thanks for the replies. I have to say that I studied LibreOffice Math after some reports from MathJax users about issues with mathematical formulas. So I'm mainly concerned about getting a good MathML export at the moment so that LibreOffice users can publish their content on the Web. (Of course, I also realize it is important to have an open-source office productivity software suite with good math rendering but that's not my personal priority).
I've just posted some thoughts on what could be done in the future:
http://
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Fred-wang (fred-wang) wrote : | #57 |
Thanks for the replies. I have to say that I studied LibreOffice Math after some reports from MathJax users about issues with mathematical formulas. So I'm mainly concerned about getting a good MathML export at the moment so that LibreOffice users can publish their content on the Web. (Of course, I also realize it is important to have an open-source office productivity software suite with good math rendering but that's not my personal priority).
I've just posted some thoughts on what could be done in the future:
http://
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Jmadero-dev (jmadero-dev) wrote : | #28 |
In order to limit the confusion between ProposedEasyHack and EasyHack and to make queries much easier we are changing ProposedEasyHack to NeedsDevEval.
Thank you and apologies for the noise
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Jmadero-dev (jmadero-dev) wrote : | #58 |
In order to limit the confusion between ProposedEasyHack and EasyHack and to make queries much easier we are changing ProposedEasyHack to NeedsDevEval.
Thank you and apologies for the noise
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Z-jbf-faure (z-jbf-faure) wrote : | #29 |
Changed version to Inherited from OOo due to comment #2.
Best regards. JBF
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, JBF (jbf-faure) wrote : | #59 |
Changed version to Inherited from OOo due to comment #2.
Best regards. JBF
Peter K Nicol (pknicol) wrote : | #30 |
Maybe this is a new bug - see attached. First seen In Libreoffice version 4.2.6.3. Scalable brackets now appear as bold. It makes maths look ugly. Peter
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Qa-admin-q (qa-admin-q) wrote : | #32 |
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penalvch (penalvch) wrote : | #31 |
Peter K Nicol, this bug report is scoped only to the problem and the document the original reporter attached, not yours. Hence, please follow https:/
ubuntu-bug libreoffice-writer
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tags: | added: amd64 trusty |
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In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, penalvch (penalvch) wrote : | #33 |
Reproducibe in MASTER:
Version: 4.4.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: a6b01d01f77f845
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-23_07:22:13
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, penalvch (penalvch) wrote : | #61 |
Reproducibe in MASTER:
Version: 4.4.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: a6b01d01f77f845
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-23_07:22:13
In freedesktop.org Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #34 |
Reproducible on Version: 4.2.3.3, OS X (I tested it using the sample document above).
Reading the comments above, it is clear this bug is not going to magically go away without a substantial rewrite.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u (kzqdnsw4-peter-x8oxkp4u) wrote : | #62 |
Reproducible on Version: 4.2.3.3, OS X (I tested it using the sample document above).
Reading the comments above, it is clear this bug is not going to magically go away without a substantial rewrite.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Peter K Nicol (pknicol) wrote : | #63 |
Created attachment 116818
Example of scalable brackets
Bug still present in 4.3.7.2 (but not in previous version)
Input: left(5 over x right)
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, W-jag (w-jag) wrote : | #64 |
The bug is still present in Version 5.0.2.
There is a recent thread in ask.libreoffice concerning the issue: https:/
It is containing a new offer of inducement.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Qubit (qubit) wrote : | #65 |
Migrating Whiteboard tags to Keywords: (needsDevEval difficultyInter
[NinjaEdit]
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rb-henschel (rb-henschel) wrote : | #66 |
Created attachment 121908
Comparision between version 2015_08_04 and 2015_08_12
It is not the old bug, but a newly introduced regression
The rendering is OK till
Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: a933e01a54f0813
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2015-08-04_06:10:12
Locale: de-DE (de_DE)
The rendering is bad since
Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: c614e7111362052
TinderBox: Win-x86@
Locale: de-DE (de_DE)
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Jmadero-dev (jmadero-dev) wrote : | #67 |
If it's the same issue then we should mark as regression, request a bibisect, and update the version field....else new bug is appropriate
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rb-henschel (rb-henschel) wrote : | #68 |
It was correct in-between, so it is not the old bug. I have written a new report bug 97111.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Krasnaya Ploshchad’ (krasnayaploshchad) wrote : | #69 |
Since LibreOffice have intergrated HarfBuzz, this can be resolved via using ot-math APIs (bug 103680).
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Krasnaya Ploshchad’ (krasnayaploshchad) wrote : | #70 |
Also, you can try to combine some Miscellaneous Technical characters together to get expected output.
See: https:/
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Fred-wang (fred-wang) wrote : | #71 |
(In reply to Volga from comment #34)
> Also, you can try to combine some Miscellaneous Technical characters
> together to get expected output.
> See: https:/
Note that these constructions should already be integrated into the MathVariant subtable of the OpenType MATH table accessible via the new HarfBuzz API.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Krasnaya Ploshchad’ (krasnayaploshchad) wrote : | #72 |
(In reply to Frédéric Wang from comment #35)
> Note that these constructions should already be integrated into the
> MathVariant subtable of the OpenType MATH table accessible via the new
> HarfBuzz API.
Wow, it seems to me we can get sulotion for this bug.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Krasnaya Ploshchad’ (krasnayaploshchad) wrote : | #73 |
(In reply to Frédéric Wang from comment #35)
> Note that these constructions should already be integrated into the
> MathVariant subtable of the OpenType MATH table accessible via the new
> HarfBuzz API.
Wow, it seems to me we can get an all-in-one solution for this bug.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Krasnaya Ploshchad’ (krasnayaploshchad) wrote : | #74 |
With attachment 53928 the squared brackts [] still bad scaled in LO 5.4.0, they looks the same as embedded screenshot.
Version: 5.4.0.3 (x64)
Build ID:7556cbc6811c
CPU 线程:4; 操作系统:Windows 6.19; UI 渲染:默认;
Locale: zh-CN (zh_CN); Calc: CL
Additionaly, LO Math does not allow to set font face for symbols, so we have no way to use several fonts as Asana Math, Cambria Math, XITS etc. to test and judge whether LO can make use of OT MATH extension to present scaled such objects.
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In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rgb-mldc (rgb-mldc) wrote : | #76 |
Problem still present in 6.1.0.3
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, kompilainenn (79045-79045) wrote : | #77 |
scalable brackets look fine for me in
Версия: 6.2.0.0.beta1
ID сборки: d1b41307be3f8c1
Потоков ЦП: 4; ОС:Windows 6.1; Отрисовка ИП: по умолчанию; VCL: win;
Локаль: ru-RU (ru_RU); UI-Language: ru-RU
Calc: threaded
people, please retest this in latest dev build 6.2
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Vstuart-foote (vstuart-foote) wrote : | #78 |
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #41)
> scalable brackets look fine for me in
>
> Версия: 6.2.0.0.beta1
> ID сборки: d1b41307be3f8c1
> Потоков ЦП: 4; ОС:Windows 6.1; Отрисовка ИП: по умолчанию; VCL: win;
> Локаль: ru-RU (ru_RU); UI-Language: ru-RU
> Calc: threaded
>
> people, please retest this in latest dev build 6.2
No. Attachment 53928 shows scalable brackets still being "stretched" vertically to fit the node. Although precision of glyph scaling for stamping into node frame has improved in Windows builds at 6.2. A proper resolution requires implementation of multi-glyph 3 element (eg. 0x239b-0x23b3) and 2 element (e.g. 0x2320, 0x2321) composition.
=-testing-=
Windows 10 Home 64-bit en-US (1803) with
Version: 6.2.0.0.alpha1+ (x64)
Build ID: 525ed5d1fcb8941
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: GL; VCL: win;
TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2018-11-15_23:08:09
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Krasnaya Ploshchad’ (krasnayaploshchad) wrote : | #79 |
Wikipedia has an article documented these characters for bracket extension:
https:/
Marcus Tomlinson (marcustomlinson) wrote : | #35 |
This release of Ubuntu is no longer receiving maintenance updates. If this is still an issue on a maintained version of Ubuntu please let us know.
Changed in libreoffice (Ubuntu): | |
status: | Triaged → Incomplete |
Changed in df-libreoffice: | |
importance: | Medium → Unknown |
status: | Confirmed → Unknown |
Changed in df-libreoffice: | |
importance: | Unknown → Medium |
status: | Unknown → Confirmed |
Marcus Tomlinson (marcustomlinson) wrote : | #80 |
Synchronising bug status with upstream.
Changed in libreoffice (Ubuntu): | |
status: | Incomplete → Confirmed |
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, W-jag (w-jag) wrote : | #81 |
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #32 of 2016-01-13)
> It was correct in-between, so it is not the old bug. ...
What version(s) did it correctly? May the quoted statement have been an error?
Will the issue be addressed one day?
Despite the fact that there isn't much mention of the 'Math' component in forums I would assume that afflicted users (teachers e.g.) might be relevant "agents" concerning the standing of free and open software.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, W-jag (w-jag) wrote : | #82 |
The bug is still present in V6.4.0.0.beta1.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Vstuart-foote (vstuart-foote) wrote : | #83 |
(In reply to Wolfgang Jäger from comment #44)
> (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #32 of 2016-01-13)
> > It was correct in-between, so it is not the old bug. ...
>
> What version(s) did it correctly? May the quoted statement have been an
> error?
>
See comment 30 and bug 97111, after that back to staus quo inherited from OOo-- with some intervening improvements to accuracy of fitting the stretched bracketing glyphs into their node bounds.
> Will the issue be addressed one day?
Possibly, and you get notice of it here.
>
> Despite the fact that there isn't much mention of the 'Math' component in
> forums I would assume that afflicted users (teachers e.g.) might be relevant
> "agents" concerning the standing of free and open software.
And? Teachers also are welcome to contribute source (as Regina does regularly) ;-)
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, W-jag (w-jag) wrote : | #84 |
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #46)
> (In reply to Wolfgang Jäger from comment #44)
> > (In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #32 of 2016-01-13)
> > > It was correct in-between, so it is not the old bug. ...
> > ...
> See comment 30 and bug 97111, after that back to staus quo inherited from
> OOo-- with some intervening improvements to accuracy of fitting the
> stretched bracketing glyphs into their node bounds.
>
Seems you wouldn't call the status quo ante "good rendering" without a blink.
> > Will the issue be addressed one day?
>
> Possibly, and you get notice of it here.
Great.
SORRY. I had forgotten about a former visit to this thread, and had missed the mentioned comment by Regina.
Anyway I couldn't test with the two builds she mentioned, and my test with
V5.0.2.2.release (32 bit PortableApp on Win 10; version before the claimed change) showed the issue in exactly the same way as the "Bad rendering since 2015_08_12" in Regina's comparison did.
> > Despite the fact that there isn't much mention of the 'Math' component in
> > forums I would assume that afflicted users (teachers e.g.) might be relevant
> > "agents" concerning the standing of free and open software.
>
> And? Teachers also are welcome to contribute source (as Regina does
> regularly) ;-)
I appreciate Regina's contributions, of course. I'm also glad that contributions by the teacher I am would be welcome. Unfortunately I completely lack the needed knowledge about fonts and many related topics. Being 75 now I also cannot expect to find my way inside the labyrinth which C-code in general and the code base of a huge project like LibreOffice in specific is to me during the time left.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Dante19031999 (dante19031999) wrote : | #85 |
Hello,
This comment is going to be post on the bugs: bug 32362 bug 133081 bug 92373 bug 127483
All those bugs seem to be related.
In my humble opinion as begginer programmer they seem to be related with a disfunction with OpenGL in windows.
Tested on linux (LO 6.4), no problem.
Tested with beta 7 on windows, no problem (does not use OpenGL any more).
So the bug happened to correct by itself.
So I suggest marking as duplicated bug 32362 bug 133081 bug 127483 and close them all.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, W-jag (w-jag) wrote : | #86 |
Created attachment 162107
Announced attachment
(In reply to dante19031999 from comment #48)
> ...
> In my humble opinion as begginer programmer they seem to be related with a
> disfunction with OpenGL in windows.
> ...
Either misunderstood completely or cannot confirm:
With LibO 7.0.0.0.beta1 under Win 10 I got exactly the behavior previously described independent of whether 'skia' was enabled or not.
See new attachment.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rgb-mldc (rgb-mldc) wrote : | #87 |
@dante19031999 this is NOT an OpenGL or OS related problem. Indeed, this problem predates the whole introduction of OpenGL support into the suite.
Insert a Math object into Writer and type this code
left[ stack{1#
you'll immediately see how wrong square brackets are, independently of OpenGL, OS or anything: just print or export to PDF to see that's NOT a display problem, but something deeper.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Dante19031999 (dante19031999) wrote : | #88 |
(In reply to RGB from comment #50)
> @dante19031999 this is NOT an OpenGL or OS related problem. Indeed, this
> problem predates the whole introduction of OpenGL support into the suite.
>
> Insert a Math object into Writer and type this code
>
> left[ stack{1#
>
> you'll immediately see how wrong square brackets are, independently of
> OpenGL, OS or anything: just print or export to PDF to see that's NOT a
> display problem, but something deeper.
Sorry. My bad.
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, J.R. Messias (jrmessi) wrote : Re: [Bug 827695] | #89 |
Thank you, Dante.
Em 18/06/2020 01:15, "Dante19031999" <email address hidden> escreveu:
> (In reply to RGB from comment #50)
> > @dante19031999 this is NOT an OpenGL or OS related problem. Indeed, this
> > problem predates the whole introduction of OpenGL support into the
> suite.
> >
> > Insert a Math object into Writer and type this code
> >
> > left[ stack{1#
> >
> > you'll immediately see how wrong square brackets are, independently of
> > OpenGL, OS or anything: just print or export to PDF to see that's NOT a
> > display problem, but something deeper.
>
> Sorry. My bad.
>
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> Title:
> [Upstream] bug in displaying scalable square brackets in math object
>
> Status in LibreOffice:
> Confirmed
> Status in OpenOffice:
> Confirmed
> Status in libreoffice package in Ubuntu:
> Confirmed
> Status in openoffice.org package in Ubuntu:
> Won't Fix
>
> Bug description:
> 1) lsb_release -rd
> Description: Ubuntu 11.04
> Release: 11.04
>
> 2) apt-cache policy libreoffice-writer
> libreoffice-writer:
> Installed: 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2
> Candidate: 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2
> Version table:
> *** 1:3.3.3-1ubuntu2 0
> 100 /var/lib/
> 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5 0
> 500 http://
> i386 Packages
> 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu4 0
> 500 http://
> Packages
>
> 3) When is expected to happen in LibreOffice Writer via a terminal:
> cd ~/Desktop && wget https:/
> ubuntu/
> example.odt && lowriter --nologo bracket_example.odt
>
> is the scalable square brackets look as they would in Word. Latex also
> shows the desired bracket shape as per
> https:/
> bug/827695/
> .
>
> 4) What happens instead is the top and bottom part of the bracket look
> like a square instead of a line pointing inwards towards the equation.
>
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In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Khaled-n (khaled-n) wrote : | #90 |
*** Bug 154892 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Khaled-k (khaled-k) wrote : | #91 |
*** Bug 155534 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
In Document Foundation Bugzilla #32362, Rgb-mldc (rgb-mldc) wrote : | #92 |
*** Bug 40998 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Created attachment 41094
Example of bad behavior for scalable brackets
As shown on attached document (which includes a Math object and a screenshot with the problem highlighted), if you use scalable brackets for a big object like a matrix, they became more and more "bold", something should not happen.