Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set Input Method for non-english based users.

Bug #1397776 reported by Jung-Kyu Park
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Bug Description

Hello elementary team and people
I always meet input method issue whenever I install elementary OS freya
As I am a Korean , I need to install language input method such ac ibus-hangul, nabi, uim, fcitx by cases
Each person has its favorite input method for their own
but , these days , all of the IM have a big trouble with qt-5 bug and chromium and chroem browser input bug
thus, we use normally uim or fcitx to avoid those errors now a days , just for avoiding it,
we love actually ibus-hangul and nabi also (for korean)

A lot of people from non-english based nations people would meet the same thing in freya
there is no language-selector in region and language in switchboard, and it makes us hard to set up language input method

we need it, and to add there , I hope elementary team to create some creative way to install and settle input method for those people

choose input method
install
setting it up

I hope it to be created so much
thank you
best regard

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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

if language settings follow the locale,it provides pre configured packages for region.
For an illustration, if locale is ko_KR, ibus ships with ibus and ibus-hangul, um ships with uim and uim-byeoru, nabi, fcitx ships with fcitx-hangul.
But, for solving that issue in the current system is make one more toggle switch for choosing essential ​packages like linuxmint mintlocale shows
Basically, providing pre installed the system language input method and enable users to change others,
however, uim and uim-byeoru is least problematic method in Korea for now.
I hope it to be created the way of elementary style!!

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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

"nabi" will be displayed as "hangul" in im-config settings
I don't know why but it is, please care this.

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Santiago (santileortiz) wrote :

I think most of the keyboard language settings should be addressed on the keyboard plug, right now the support for ibus like languages is missing there, but as you said it's really hard to come up with sane defaults without adding a lot of switches, I think they can be better placed on the keyboard plug than the locale plug.

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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote : Re: [Bug 1397776] Re: suggestion for input method install & setting tool for non-english based nations people in region & language

actually, it was a Language Support(language-selector-gnome)was there,
first, in system settings at luna
it installed lots of useless packages for all users , I think it made
elementary team avoid from it at Freya,
I am so agreed with it.
but, it was the only tool for language-select with input-method at once,
im-config work though, it is just a tiny configuration tool to select
input-method only
language support worked more than im-config did.

so that we usually configure it the language settings and input-method as
a whole united unit.
thus, I thought the locale plug is good for the input method
keyboard plug is not accustomed with us but good idea.

2015-08-17 2:00 GMT+09:00 Santiago <email address hidden>:

> I think most of the keyboard language settings should be addressed on
> the keyboard plug, right now the support for ibus like languages is
> missing there, but as you said it's really hard to come up with sane
> defaults without adding a lot of switches, I think they can be better
> placed on the keyboard plug than the locale plug.
>
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> You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1397776
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> Title:
> suggestion for input method install & setting tool for non-english
> based nations people in region & language
>
> Status in Locale Plug:
> New
>
> Bug description:
> Hello elementary team and people
> I always meet input method issue whenever I install elementary OS freya
> As I am a Korean , I need to install language input method such ac
> ibus-hangul, nabi, uim, fcitx by cases
> Each person has its favorite input method for their own
> but , these days , all of the IM have a big trouble with qt-5 bug and
> chromium and chroem browser input bug
> thus, we use normally uim or fcitx to avoid those errors now a days ,
> just for avoiding it,
> we love actually ibus-hangul and nabi also (for korean)
>
> A lot of people from non-english based nations people would meet the
> same thing in freya
> there is no language-selector in region and language in switchboard, and
> it makes us hard to set up language input method
>
> we need it, and to add there , I hope elementary team to create some
> creative way to install and settle input method for those people
>
> choose input method
> install
> setting it up
>
> I hope it to be created so much
> thank you
> best regard
>
> To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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> https://bugs.launchpad.net/switchboard-plug-locale/+bug/1397776/+subscriptions
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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

actually, it was a Language Support(language-selector-gnome) there, first, in system settings at luna
it installed lots of useless packages for all users , I think it made elementary team avoid from it at Freya,
I am so agreed with it.
but, it was the only tool for language-select with input-method at once, im-config work though,
it is just a tiny configuration tool to select input-method only
language support worked more than im-config did.

so that we usually configure it the language settings and input-method as a whole united unit.
thus, I thought the locale plug is good for the input method
keyboard plug is not accustomed with us but good idea.

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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :
summary: - suggestion for input method install & setting tool for non-english based
- nations people in region & language
+ Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set
+ Input Method for non-english based users.
tags: added: internationalization
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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

These bugs are the related to this

It is unable to switch language in the search field of Slingshot [$20]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/slingshot/+bug/1374592

ibus with qt5 issue)
https://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1726

uim with qt5 issues)
https://github.com/uim/uim/issues/30
https://github.com/uim/uim/issues/61

more about this issue
https://plus.google.com/101028813073033149665/posts/Fovi2JrKNwa

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賴家亨 (laichiaheng) wrote :

There is only fcitx can work in my language now.......

tags: added: keyboard-layout
affects: switchboard-plug-locale → switchboard-plug-keyboard
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Leonardo Lemos (leonardolemos) wrote :
tags: added: bounty
summary: Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set
- Input Method for non-english based users.
+ Input Method for non-english based users. [$60]
Maxim Taranov (png2378)
summary: Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set
- Input Method for non-english based users. [$60]
+ Input Method for non-english based users. [$80]
summary: Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set
- Input Method for non-english based users. [$80]
+ Input Method for non-english based users. [$100]
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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote : Re: Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set Input Method for non-english based users. [$100]

reference from linux mint)
mint-locale's input method package list management
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintlocale/commit/2dccf145387efc7847973684c0d1a74c869e8d38

Maxim Taranov (png2378)
Changed in switchboard-plug-keyboard:
status: New → Confirmed
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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

Document - Proposal about Input Method Tab
https://github.com/bagjunggyu/Input-Method-Tab

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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

This Input Method Tab must be an independent feature like keyboard layout selector.
There are a lot of input methods for the people of Asia and who need it.
It should be easy for users to choose it , but input methods are not delivered as built in like keyboard layout, since it is provided as packages.
Thus, we need to install it when we need it.
And when we don't need it, it should be removed easily by users.

Maxim Taranov (png2378)
Changed in switchboard-plug-keyboard:
status: Confirmed → Opinion
Changed in switchboard-plug-keyboard:
status: Opinion → Confirmed
Changed in switchboard-plug-keyboard:
milestone: none → loki+1-beta1
importance: Undecided → Wishlist
Changed in ubuntu:
status: New → Invalid
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David Berg (dberg918) wrote :

GNOME has ibus baked in and integrates this into the Region & Language section of their Control Center, which contains Language and Format options like Switchboard's Language & Region plug. It is very slick, including a nice language selector that shows up in the top bar when you have more than one language or keyboard layout added in your settings.

Adding similar functionality would be great, but you could iterate on this by selecting some sane defaults based on the language selected during install. For example, if someone selects Japanese as their language, set up a mozc or anthy input source alongside the default Japanese keyboard layout, which is a slightly rearranged English QWERTY layout (I think this is how Windows machines are set up in Japan by default as well).

Considering the ibus package is already a part of Loki by default (not sure if it's intentional, because it is completely broken and unusable), I don't think it's a stretch to have this implemented down the road.

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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :
summary: Suggestion for switchboard-inputmethod-plug to install , remove and set
- Input Method for non-english based users. [$100]
+ Input Method for non-english based users.
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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :
Changed in switchboard-plug-keyboard:
status: Confirmed → Fix Committed
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Jung-Kyu Park (bagjunggyu) wrote :

I think it is released, just need to await next version of the OS.
https://github.com/elementary/switchboard-plug-keyboard/pull/287

Changed in switchboard-plug-keyboard:
status: Fix Committed → Fix Released
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