"Combine sides" should be "combine pages"?

Bug #1379531 reported by Akerbeltz
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Bug Description

Combine sides
and
Combine sides (reverse)

look like a German speaker with poor English mistranslated 'Seiten' as 'sides' rather than 'pages'?

 Located in ../src/ui.vala:1204
 Located in ../src/ui.vala:1214

affects: simple-scan (Ubuntu) → ubuntu-translations
Changed in simple-scan (Ubuntu):
status: New → Triaged
importance: Undecided → Medium
David Planella (dpm)
Changed in ubuntu-translations:
assignee: nobody → Ubuntu German Translators (ubuntu-l10n-de)
status: New → Triaged
importance: Undecided → Low
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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote :

While Robert's German skills are quite good, he's a native English speaker. It's probably worth reviewing if "sides" is appropriate here. Until that, there's nothing to do on the translation side (unless translating the string in the first place, which shouldn't be tracked as a bug).

Changed in ubuntu-translations:
status: Triaged → Incomplete
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Robert Ancell (robert-ancell) wrote :

I didn't do any of the translations - they are automagically done by Ubuntu translators via Launchpad.

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Martin Pitt (pitti) wrote : Re: [Bug 1379531] Re: Bad source string

Robert Ancell [2014-10-10 7:56 -0000]:
> I didn't do any of the translations

This is about the original ("C") string in the upstream source, not
the translation.

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Robert Ancell (robert-ancell) wrote : Re: Bad source string

Oh, now I get it.

Changed in ubuntu-translations:
status: Incomplete → Invalid
summary: - Bad source string
+ "Combine sides" should be "combine pages"?
Changed in simple-scan (Ubuntu):
status: Triaged → New
Phillip Sz (phillip-sz)
Changed in ubuntu-translations:
assignee: Ubuntu German Translators (ubuntu-l10n-de) → nobody
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Daniel Kessel (dkessel) wrote :

I tried to check this but I cannot locate "combine sides" in the latest revision (24):

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/simple-scan/utopic/view/head:/src/ui.vala

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Akerbeltz (fios) wrote :
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Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) wrote :

When searching for "side" in launchpad translations it appears that the author by "sides" means "front/back side". Simply replacing sides by pages does not seem to be the best wording, either, IMO.

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Akerbeltz (fios) wrote :

What is the actual outcome of "combine sides", is this a print related thing to print side by side or what? I'm still struggling to figure out what this actually does.

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Anthony Harrington (linuxchemist) wrote :

My memory's a little fuzzy on the matter, so do excuse me if I'm about to write a load of nonsense, but I remember coming across this a few years ago, and in the end left it be for English UK for lack of certainty.

At the time I remember considering the concept - Imagine you are scanning a document into a pdf with 6 A4 'sides' (3 sheets of paper) but they are numbered within like: frontpage, index, page 1, page 2, page 3 and page 4.

On your 3rd sheet of paper, page 4 (of the work) is actually on side 6.

Without digging into it back then, I presumed the strings were intentionally written in as they were to account for the non-interchangeablity between the three terms.

Each sheet is made up of a front side and a back side of course, and you may find yourself wishing to combine different sides (e.g. sides 3-6 inclusive in the example above contain the actually information, which is equivalent to asking for 'pages 1 - 4'?)

Alternatively, whether 'page' was used to mean 'sheet' instead, I can't recall.

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Akerbeltz (fios) wrote :

Hm that doesn't make sense, neither as a feature nor in terms of the UI string. As a feature it doesn't make sense because - should I want the pages in a different order - I can do that once it's a PDF. In terms of the UI string, if that's what it means, certainly the current wording would not make a user interpret it that way. I guess something like "Change output order" or something like that.

But if that's what "Combine sides" means, what does "Combine sides (reverse)" mean?

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